Tired of the allergies and weather here. Miss colder climate. So we are starting to entertain the idea of a move back north.

New Hampshire is on the list as is Vermont.

Any members from up there? If so any feedback about really anything. I have family in Maine so I am fairly familiar with the climate aspect.

Thanks much all,
Chris

Left a long time ago. The southern part of the state is now Massachusetts without the sales tax.

Looks like a snow storm headed there this weekend.

Never lived up there, but spent a fair amount of time in the winter on business trips.

I distinctly remember one winter morning.

Hot shower, drove to the facility which was on a high knob above the salt water. Wind about 35 knots. Reminded me of some of the winter maneuvers I "enjoyed" while in the army in Germany. I was raised in N. Idaho and experienced those winters. Nothing like the ones up in New England country.

If you like cold winters, with lots of snow . . .Just the place for you.

Lived here my entire life minus 4 years in Michigan. Housing is a bit spendy as are property taxes but otherwise no complaints. No sales and income tax. Good gun laws. Even the democrats aren't stupid enough to change that. Allergies can still beat you up here though depending on the area. A friends property gets such heavy pollen in summer it looks like snow in the air.

Come west. New England is a lost cause.

From what I understand, the Free Staters never got their ground game going. If it didn't work in NH, I wouldn't have any hope that it would be better than any of the rest of NE politically.

-Rob

If it makes a difference, consider the Free State Project.

https://freestateproject.org/

Burton beat me to it.

NHTagmember left there around a year ago. He is now down in Arizona.

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Originally posted by cslinger:
New Hampshire is on the list as is Vermont.

VT and NH may look similar but the cultures are a world apart.

https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=bX7nQrCgALM

Anyone can feel free to imbed the Granite State of Mind Video. I don't know how.

I left NH in 2015 after having lived there for 24 years

the huge change in NH demographics has made NH merely a proxy for MA, NY, Ct and RIi - who are exporting their particular brand of bullshit north

I left for greener pastures - and settled in the desert and I should have done it 10 years ago - I knew the state was in for a big change when it elected its first democratic governor - its a rapid downhill descent

weather issue aside, I could not in good conscience ever advise that NH was an acceptable place to move

in my opinion the entire NE US is a lost cause - high taxes, high fees, poor services and a general lack of republicans make it a much less than ideal place to want to go

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Originally posted by Elk Hunter:
NI was raised in N. Idaho and experienced those winters.

Pretty much the same winters we have here and they can be bad in their own right, but they don't hold a candle to the NE winters. It's just a whole new level of cold that goes right through you up there.

When I first moved to northern NY, I'd heard stories of how bad the winters were up there. I thought, pffft , I'm from MT, they can't be that bad. They were. The coldest I've ever been is out in the field at Ft. Drum in the middle of winter. I can handle -20 to -30 around here no problem, but 30 to 40 degrees warmer out there feels twice as cold.

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Originally posted by BurtonRW:
From what I understand, the Free Staters never got their ground game going. If it didn't work in NH, I wouldn't have any hope that it would be better than any of the rest of NE politically.

-Rob

I think your understanding may be a bit off. For those that don't know how the Free State Project is supposed to work, the idea was to get 20,000 people to sign a statement indicating that they would move to NH within 5 years of hitting 20,000 signers. While that process took longer than some thought, the 20,000 threshold was hit a little more than a year ago triggering the move. There were some 'early movers' that started to move here before the move was triggered and there are now more than 2,000 who have already moved and thousands more pre-staters.

What have early movers and aligned locals done over the last few years. Well, we eliminated all knife laws in the state. We passed constitutional carry. We've rolled back civil asset forfeiture significantly. We've passed jury nullification, medical cannabis, stopped mandatory seat belt laws. NH has been a disproportionate mover in the crypt-currency space (e.g. bitcoin) with both start-up businesses as well as being the largest single spender of bitcoin in the early days of its acceptance at popular e-commerce sites (e.g. overstock.com).

While it certainly has not been a one-way trip to increased liberty (after 10 years there has been capitulation on real-ID) in general the trend has been quite positive.

There are something like two dozen sitting state reps who are free state project participants and more who have served and moved on and many more locals and pre-staters who are philosophically aligned and embolden by the support that new movers have provided.

And honestly, the political wins and losses while important are really a very small component of the success so far. Having a diverse and dispersed community of liberty activists across the state means that on any given weekend there are multiple social events where like minded individuals gather either to plan how to continue to work to increase liberty in our lifetime, or just as often, to relax among friends who don't think I should move to Somalia. In other larger states, liberty events are sparsely attended and not regularly scheduled. In a typical weekend there are multiple concurrent meetups going on across the state. For example I took a picture at a weekly Nashua meetup a couple of weeks ago


That same time, there was a similar sized weekly social event in Keene and in Manchester...probably others as well.

I think it is fair to question whether the FSP will ever officially get its 20,000 movers but whether that happens or not, NH Is already awesome and the people who have moved are already enjoying themselves more than you can imagine....Oh, and I just hired another mover a week ago. He and his wife will be here in about a month.

Live Free or Die

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^^^^ Awesome!

OP, stay cooler in the summer and check out the mountains in western NC. Not as bad as the flatlands for alergies.

I wouldn't advise anyone to move to the Northeast US anymore:

-most NE states are liberal hellholes
-Taxes are crazy compared to the South
-Gun control
-Aging population

PA isn't bad at all for taxes compared to NY/NJ/New England and we have great freedom when it comes to guns. Our gas per gallon is stupid high though, only 6 states ahead of us with more expensive gas: CA, HI, etc. I was in Tennessee last week and was shocked at the $1.97 gas. I filled up this morning for $2.42

Go where it doesn't snow on April 1st and that ain't NH. Damn snow never ends.

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Originally posted by PASig:
I wouldn't advise anyone to move to the Northeast US anymore:

-most NE states are liberal hellholes
-Taxes are crazy compared to the South
-Gun control
-Aging population

PA isn't bad at all for taxes compared to NY/NJ/New England and we have great freedom when it comes to guns. Our gas per gallon is stupid high though, only 6 states ahead of us with more expensive gas: CA, HI, etc. I was in Tennessee last week and was shocked at the $1.97 gas. I filled up this morning for $2.42

NH has no general sales tax. No income tax. Property taxes are high but the total tax burden in the state is about .78 of PA. Oh, and we have the lowest unemployment in the country.

A lot of ignorance here. VT NH and ME are still free states and will continue to be until those of us born here all die out. If no one else moves here it will all be lost. We all have constitutional carry and a fierce loyalty to remaining free. Help us keep the assholes from NY, MA, and CT and we'll be just fine.

If you like being left alone and spending time in the woods or in sleepy little towns we have plenty of room for you.

NH.

VT doesn't have a Sig Sauer Academy and Pro Shop.