The saddest thing is this Harry fellow seemed to be a decent guy before he met this shrew who totally cucked him.

I saw some British expert on something analyzing some of his statements he’s made and he says they seem to be a person who is under duress or being coached.

He’s not the BHP-toting, Apache gunship flying Price Harry he once was.

He needs to keep his nose out of our affairs. We shot a bunch of his countrymen a while back to get them out of our affairs. His opinion about this nation and its politics means nothing. This isn't Canada and when you piss us off, we don't play nice.

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Originally posted by dking271:
I think you’re misinterpreting jhe’s assessment. He’s saying essentially the same thing, the Constitution doesn’t say anything about abortion, therefore it is up to the states or legislature to codify it into law or not.

Maybe I misread, but what I got of jhe888’s post was that “almost all commentary on the case…, both pro & con, want to only talk about the merits of pro or anti-abortion policy.”

Put another way, they are not talking about the legal or constitutional issues that the decision hinged on, but whether abortion is good or bad.

I read somewhere that when all the people around you are losing their minds about this decision and the Bruen decision, the best response is to ask if they had actually read the decision and if so, what specifically did they disagree with in the decision.

I haven’t made it through this one yet, and I bogged down reading Breyer’s dissent (what a bunch of irrelevant horse feces), but got through the rest of Bruen. In reading Bruen it was obvious that no sane person deciding based on the Constitution and not “I don’t like guns, they’re scary” could come to any other conclusion.

From the highlights I’ve seen on this decision, it is no different. This is clearly a matter for the states, PERIOD. It doesn’t matter whether one thinks abortion is good or bad, the Constitution didn’t reserve it for the Federal government so it is reserved to the states, or to the people. End of story.

What I came away with from jhe888’s post was that he was frustrated that too many commenters where stuck on abortion policy, not constitutional law.

ReyHRH disagreed with that contention as he’s been seeing different (more rational) comments. It doesn’t sound to me like either disagrees on the decision or why it is right, just that they are seeing different comments.

Does this mean that only lawyers, judges and the like should be allowed to comment on the issue of the Federal government's role in abortion?

The rest of us should just be quiet and let only those who've passed the Bar discuss the matter, and we should be certain to not interrupt?

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Originally posted by parabellum:
Harry, have you and the missus ever considered buying a Piper Saratoga? Give it some thought.

Great beginner plane... What an excellent suggestion !

The Vineyard is lovely in August... You and Megan could visit Barack and Michelle.

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Originally posted by JohnO:

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Originally posted by parabellum:
Harry, have you and the missus ever considered buying a Piper Saratoga? Give it some thought.

Great beginner plane... What an excellent suggestion !

The Vineyard is lovely in August... You and Megan could visit Barack and Michelle.

Perhaps he could fly back to England.

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Originally posted by parabellum:
Does this mean that only lawyers, judges and the like should be allowed to comment on the issue of the Federal government's role in abortion?

The rest of us should just be quiet and let only those who've passed the Bar discuss the matter, and we should be certain to not interrupt?

If that was directed at me, not at all. I’ve never studied law much less passed the bar.

Even though he had privileged upbringing and help getting his foot in the door, being able to fly an Apache helicopter is no small accomplishment.

Eh, you can train a monkey to fly a rocket ship. Besides which he might have been a shitty pilot. Worst fucking guy in the squadron. Who knows? He’s an entitled douche still crying over the hand life dealt him. Fuck that guy.

Why even call this leftist scumbag a prince anymore. He's now just a nobody with a whore for a wife. Asshole just tries so hard to reclaim his 15. Why give it to him?

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Originally posted by PASig:
The saddest thing is this Harry fellow seemed to be a decent guy before he met this shrew who totally cucked him.

Sadly, this is more common than you might expect.

Had one acquaintance that, while we disagreed on many things and he was certainly left of me, was mostly rational. Then he moved here, married an American woman, and, next thing I know he's turned into this wild-eyed leftist nutjob.

He's no longer an acquaintance.

Worse: The guy who turned me on to 1911s. If not a conservative, definitely a conservative-leaning libertarian. Ex-military. He and some definitely left-sounding woman move in together and, next thing I know, he's bashing Trump right-and-left and seeing racism around every corner.

He is, likewise, no longer an acquaintance.

I can handle disagreement. I can't handle stupidity or insanity.

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Originally posted by parabellum:
Does this mean that only lawyers, judges and the like should be allowed to comment on the issue of the Federal government's role in abortion?

The rest of us should just be quiet and let only those who've passed the Bar discuss the matter, and we should be certain to not interrupt?

I don't believe that's what he's saying at all. That's certainly not how I read it and not what I'm saying. (Particularly since IANAL )

What jhe, a couple others, and I are saying is that the SCOTUS decision was not about ethics, morality, or rights. It was not about whether abortion is right or wrong. It was about reversing a bad decision because the decision was poorly-reasoned and because it led to the Court usurping the roles of the Legislature and of the states.

IOW: It could as well have been a decision about the right to grow daisies in ones back yard. It still would have been a bad decision, using the kind of reasoning the Court used in Roe, and still should have been overturned.

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Originally posted by Rey HRH:
I'm even surprise you have that impression since I would think you're a lawyer talking with others in your industry and they would have the right perspective on this issue as you described it.

Many other lawyers can only think about the decision in terms of "it takes away the right to abortion." They already thought Roe was correctly decided, and this decision is not taken as a revisit of the constitutional issue, but as an attack on the policy. This is somewhat surprising, but not all lawyers are all that smart, and many are more ideologues than legal thinkers.

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Originally posted by parabellum:
Does this mean that only lawyers, judges and the like should be allowed to comment on the issue of the Federal government's role in abortion?

The rest of us should just be quiet and let only those who've passed the Bar discuss the matter, and we should be certain to not interrupt?

No one in this thread said that.

The merits of abortion policy are not relevant to the decision as to whether this is a constitutionally protected right, or a matter that the federal government has any ability to regulate. Whether abortions should be allowed or prohibited tells us nothing about whether the federal government is the governing body that is entitled to make that decision, which is what the recent case is about.

But the majority of opinion that I hear is not about the constitutional question of whether the feds or the states get to decide, but rather, is about what the substantive decision should be.

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Originally posted by egregore:


Even though he had privileged upbringing and help getting his foot in the door, being able to fly an Apache helicopter is no small accomplishment.

I was wondering what became of "Harry Hi-Power", too.

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Originally posted by Blackmore:
[QUOTE]Originally posted by egregore:

I was wondering what became of "Harry Hi-Power", too.

When I first saw that photo I was all “cool, rockin the HP, way to go!”

Now, I’m just “bro, sort out the slack in those straps!”

My wife is English, and our friends have learned NOT to bring up the subject of these two…. She has educated huge swathes of the PNW with quaint UK terms such as “wanker”, “gobshite”, “muppet”, and a personal favorite, “cockwomble” (to be fair, that last one might be two words, or even hyphenated, as a mere grotty colonial, I am uncertain) still, she’s definitely not a fan….

Bill R

Harry, if you recall one of the main reasons the USA came to be is because we were tired of your royal bullshit. So stuff it or take it back to England. (oh, US media...if you never do another story on the British monarchy that will be fine with me)