The Wash Post has mapped more than 52,000 homicides in major American cities over the past decade and found that across the country, there are areas where murder is common but arrests are rare.

https://www.washingtonpost.com...m_term=.fb57b7c5bdc0

lots of data in this article

The Washington Post has identified the places in dozens of American cities where murder is common but arrests are rare. These pockets of impunity were identified by obtaining and analyzing up to a decade of homicide arrest data from 50 of the nation’s largest cities. The analysis of 52,000 criminal homicides goes beyond what is known nationally about the unsolved cases, revealing block by block where police fail to catch killers.

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This is from one of the plots. It shows data for the lowest rate of arrests for homicide

Chicago:

white victim 42% arrest rate
minority victim 25% arrest rate

Baltimore:

white victim: 57% arrest rate
minority victim: 34% arrest rate



https://www.washingtonpost.com...m_term=.03cad7df9582

Out of 52,175 homicides in 50 cities over the past decade,
51 percent did not result in
an arrest.

"We din see nuffin', officer."

And of course the narrative will be that the reason why so many “minority” victim homicides aren’t solved is because of institutional racism that keeps the police from making the same efforts as they do to solve white victim crimes.

I don't believe anything that is published in wapo, including the weather report.

Did the article mention all the people wearing "Don't snitch!" and "Fuck the po-leece!" T-shirts in those areas with the high unsolved numbers?

Those are misdemeanor homicides and they skew the figures. Regards 18DAI

Am I the only one surprised that the arrest rate is only 49%? Something makes me wonder how this is being calculated. Does that translate to 50% of murders are unsolved?

It's amazing that didn'tseenuffin when someone gets shot but as soon as the police start scuffling with someone, everyone has a cell phone out recording.

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Originally posted by ECSquirrel:
Am I the only one surprised that the arrest rate is only 49%? Something makes me wonder how this is being calculated. Does that translate to 50% of murders are unsolved?

You may not be the only one surprised but you certtainly aren't the only one shocked.

The calculation in the areas with which I have the most familiarity is that an arrest moves it to a different column in the police stats, but essentially it means searches for new suspects stops. Of course all of those arrests don't end in convictions either.

And yes from the layman's perspective (mine and probably most citizens) if there is no arrest the crime is unsolved. I suspect many of these, especially in the urban jungles, everyone, cops, aldermen, next door neighbors, the man in the moon, know who did it, but like the victim, the investigation is dead in the street.

Look at Heyjackass.com for the stats on Chicago. My understanding is that this site gets it right. Anyway, the jackass shows a 14% clearance rate for homicides in Chicago. When you consider that a large percent of cleared cases are suicides the murder number probably grows.

This is a shameful comment on the state of our society and I point not a single finger out of a fist-full at cops.

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Originally posted by ulsterman:
It's amazing that didn'tseenuffin when someone gets shot but as soon as the police start scuffling with someone, everyone has a cell phone out recording.

Oh, excellent point!

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Originally posted by wishfull thinker:

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Originally posted by ulsterman:
It's amazing that didn'tseenuffin when someone gets shot but as soon as the police start scuffling with someone, everyone has a cell phone out recording.

Oh, excellent point!

Bravo!

Snitches get stitches or ditches. Thas why.

i thought the "solved"
rate would be much higher.

Guessing the "murderer" is murdered a bunch of the time. Call it a vicious circle. Just a guess.

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Originally posted by ulsterman:
It's amazing that didn'tseenuffin when someone gets shot but as soon as the police start scuffling with someone, everyone has a cell phone out recording.

Because it becomes payday when they have a video recording.......

Many years ago my Nephew was a nurse working in the Emergency room and he said somebody would come in with a stab or gunshot and the cops would ask him who did it and almost all the time the reply was, "some dude". They, (the victum) usually knows but would rather settle it themselves.

Years ago a coworker made one of those nugget truth comments, "sometimes stereotypes exist for a good reason".

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Originally posted by wishfull thinker:

Look at Heyjackass.com for the stats on Chicago. My understanding is that this site gets it right. Anyway, the jackass shows a 14% clearance rate for homicides in Chicago. When you consider that a large percent of cleared cases are suicides the murder number probably grows.

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Suicide is in a different class. They fall under "death investigations". And are pretty much cut and dry, and cleared rather quickly.

However, you're looking at it the wrong way. Some of those "homicides" that aren't really that cut and dry get lumped into the "Death Investigation" category. (They may KNOW it's a homicide, but until it's proven... it stays in the grey area) So on the books, it's not really a homicide. Then when (read "if") the Detective Division clears the case, it gets re-classified as a cleared homicide.

Just a little statical manipulation.

Another bar to successful arrest and prosecution can be traced to prosecutors and D.A.s who only approve charges in absolute slam dunks.
They don't want to risk their win / loss stats.
And the WAPO maps would be unreadable if it included Attempt Murder, Aggravated Assault and Felonious Assault.

Thought the unsolved killings would be just another Hillary story. Turns out to be bigger then that.

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Originally posted by RogB:
I don't believe anything that is published in wapo, including the weather report.

I doubt the day and date in that rag.