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Link to decision: https://www.supremecourt.gov/o...pdf/16-1466_2b3j.pdf In reasonably plain English: This is a case about whether government employees who are represented by a union to which they do not belong can be required to pay a fee to cover the costs of collective bargaining. The plaintiff in this case, an Illinois state employee, argued that having to pay the fees violates the First Amendment. Today the Court agreed, ruling for the employee and against the union. 5-4. Sotomayor dissents. Kagan dissents, joined by Ginsburg, Breyer, and Sotomayor.
“Facts are stubborn things; and whatever may be our wishes, our inclinations, or the dictates of our passions, they cannot alter the state of facts and evidence.” - John Adams | ||
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Baroque Bloke |
Hooray! A great win. “JUSTICE ALITO delivered the opinion of the Court.” Serious about crackers | |||
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Rule #1: Use enough gun |
MORE WINNING! Cutting off another source of Democrat funding. I like it! When a strong man, fully armed, guards his own house, his possessions are undisturbed. Luke 11:21 "Every nation in every region now has a decision to make. Either you are with us, or you are with the terrorists." -- George W. Bush | |||
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This is Huuuuuge. I've been waiting for this decision/ I'm sorry if I hurt you feelings when I called you stupid - I thought you already knew - Unknown ................................... When you have no future, you live in the past. " Sycamore Row" by John Grisham | |||
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Unapologetic Old School Curmudgeon |
Yes this is a good win. Don't weep for the stupid, or you will be crying all day | |||
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Alienator |
It's sad the Supreme Court has to rule on common sense. SIG556 Classic P220 Carry SAS Gen 2 SAO SP2022 9mm German Triple Serial P938 SAS P365 FDE Psalm 118:24 "This is the day which the Lord hath made; we will rejoice and be glad in it" | |||
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Oriental Redneck |
I'm so tired of winning. . . . . . . Nah! Q | |||
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Drug Dealer |
Wonderful! Check out the National Education Association's web site this morning. Oh my, the wailing and the gnashing of tooths. It makes my heart glad. When a thing is funny, search it carefully for a hidden truth. - George Bernard Shaw | |||
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quarter MOA visionary |
I like the results but what troubles me is the division by party inclination. Yesterday, Prof. Dershowitz said while he doesn't like the policy he agreed with the law on yesterdays Trump Immigration Limits/Ban. Why can't the SC think along the same lines and just look at the law? | |||
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Little ray of sunshine |
Wait, you mean people shouldn't be forced to support organizations they don't want to join? (Look, I get it. The unions claim those people are free riders. They are. But too, bad. That is the risk you take when you do something like this.) The fish is mute, expressionless. The fish doesn't think because the fish knows everything. | |||
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Little ray of sunshine |
Because most people aren't like Dershowitz and can't separate their policy preferences from interpreting the law. Scalia was pretty good at it. Dershowitz is too. I rarely agree with him on policy, but he is intellectually honest. The fish is mute, expressionless. The fish doesn't think because the fish knows everything. | |||
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I believe in the principle of Due Process |
Why do you think they got the job, and Dershowitz didn’t? Scalia type judges believe they are not there to make policy choices, but to decide Constitutional issues, i.e. is this within the power of Congress, or an “establishment of religion,” or “an infringement...” Progressive judges believe progressive policies are Constitutional, unprogressive ones are not. Luckily, I have enough willpower to control the driving ambition that rages within me. When you had the votes, we did things your way. Now, we have the votes and you will be doing things our way. This lesson in political reality from Lyndon B. Johnson "Some things are apparent. Where government moves in, community retreats, civil society disintegrates and our ability to control our own destiny atrophies. The result is: families under siege; war in the streets; unapologetic expropriation of property; the precipitous decline of the rule of law; the rapid rise of corruption; the loss of civility and the triumph of deceit. The result is a debased, debauched culture which finds moral depravity entertaining and virtue contemptible." - Justice Janice Rogers Brown | |||
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One less funding source for leftists. I believe the fees are now an Opt-in not an Opt-out. ...let him who has no sword sell his robe and buy one. Luke 22:35-36 NAV "Behold, I send you out as sheep in the midst of wolves; so be shrewd as serpents and innocent as doves." Matthew 10:16 NASV | |||
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Old, Slow, but Lucky! |
As a retired State employee, I wonder where I can get my retroactive reimbursement? Don _______________________ Living the Dream... One Day at a Time. | |||
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wishing we were congress |
thanks Mr Janus ! n a 5-4 decision, the Supreme Court ruled in favor of Mark Janus in his First Amendment lawsuit against the AFSCME Council 31. The decision means Janus, a child support specialist for the Illinois Department of Healthcare and Family Services, no longer has to pay what the union calls "fair share" fees for AFSCME's representation of him. The decision affects about five million public employees in 22 states without right-to-work laws. They now will be able to join Janus in deciding for themselves whether they want to pay union fees. Colorado, Illinois, Minnesota, New Hampshire, Ohio and Pennsylvania are among the other states that are impacted Conservative Justice Neil Gorsuch, Donald Trump's appointee to the bench, cast the decisive vote. Wednesday's ruling nullifies a 41-year-old precedent established in Abood vs. Board of Education, in which the Supreme Court then upheld union fees. Alito said that opinion was wrong. https://www.paintsvilleherald....4d-16e7b58025ec.html | |||
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Get Off My Lawn |
"I’m not going to read Time Magazine, I’m not going to read Newsweek, I’m not going to read any of these magazines; I mean, because they have too much to lose by printing the truth"- Bob Dylan, 1965 | |||
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4 Justices voting against freedom.Better be glad Clinton never got to nominate a Justice.This shows how perilously close we were and still are, vulnerable to having our most cherished freedoms removed. _________________________ "Sometimes I wonder whether the world is being run by smart people who are putting us on or by imbeciles who really mean it." Mark Twain | |||
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Actually, why isn’t this an option? How does the law apply to situations like this? | |||
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Tinker Sailor Soldier Pie |
The significance and importance of Trump's election couldn't be more clear with these last few days. I wonder if any one of these never trumpers can admit that fact to himself even now. ~Alan Acta Non Verba NRA Life Member (Patron) God, Family, Guns, Country Men will fight and die to protect women... because women protect everything else. ~Andrew Klavan | |||
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