I’m not talking about orientation. Everybody knows that the paper comes over the top of the roll. If you are one of the behind the roll people, you can stop reading now. Because you are wrong.

What I’m asking about is where the toilet paper belongs on the wall next to the toilet. Forward of the bowl? Next to your arm? Above the seat? Level with the seat? That kind of thing. I did a little bit of googling and came up with the ADA specs on roll positioning, but that doesn’t quite seem satisfactory in the small bathrooms Mrs.BurtonRW and I have recently remodeled.

Unfortunately, the rental we are in is quite old and put together in questionable ways, so we feel that it is an unreliable model.

Thanks in advance for any helpful thoughts or comments.

– Rob

P.S. - Mrs.BurtonRW welcomes any pictures of cats playing with toilet paper.

Roll dispenser should be a comfortable reach without leaning over. Also positioned so you can get a good power spin. You can always buy a free standing one to place wherever you like.

My Master bath has a water closet where the toilet is located so I'm quite familiar with a smallish space.

How I went about this task was to sit on the seat, bend my elbow 90 deg, position elbow by my side, and rotated hand/arm outward. Where my hand touched the wall is where the holder got mounted on the wall. It has been a perfect location.

My guess is that the OP has never owned a cat.

As long as it is comfortable to reach while sitting, it should work. HOWEVER, if you have small kids, mount it high enough that they can't use it as a handle. I had to move the TP holder in the kids' bathroom higher because I was tired of fixing it.

Upgrade and replace said paper with a Bidet....

We have a portable roll holder. It’s on a stand and not fixed to a wall or cabinet.

Our bathroom is just the right size to
Use the inside of the sink cabinet door.
Works our perfect but you gotta open the under sink door.

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Originally posted by Flash-LB:
My guess is that the OP has never owned a cat.

I found that didn't really make a difference. If I put in the roll so it rolled outward over the top, the cat would sit on the toilet and unroll it. If I put it in the other way, the cat would sit on the toilet and tear chunks of it out with her claws. Made a helluva mess.

I studied on this. The internet has very particular positions for paper. The position for paper presents a puerile poo-wiper visible to anyone entering the 1/2 bath. This offends the puritanical proclivities of the woman of the house. She believes that the paper should not be visible as a stark white roll, in the newly decorated bath. So, I will likely, with her approval, mount the roll where it should not be located according to the internet. I will probably mount it low and at the rim level, hidden in part by the forward rim.

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Originally posted by Expert308:

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Originally posted by Flash-LB:
My guess is that the OP has never owned a cat.

I found that didn't really make a difference. If I put in the roll so it rolled outward over the top, the cat would sit on the toilet and unroll it. If I put it in the other way, the cat would sit on the toilet and tear chunks of it out with her claws. Made a helluva mess.

THANK YOU. The whole “down the back if you have a cat” thing is a myth.

As for the stand (vs. wall mount), we’ve had trouble finding one that isn’t clunky (or at least to our liking aesthetically).

-Rob

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Originally posted by BurtonRW:
I’m not talking about orientation. Everybody knows that the paper comes over the top of the roll. If you are one of the behind the roll people, you can stop reading now. Because you are wrong.

Thank you! That was a wonderful laugh for today. I agree, you are 100% correct.

As to where to put the dispenser, somewhere convenient and comfortable. I’m sure we’ve all visited at least one restroom where we thought, “What silly individual thought this was a good place to put the tp?

The portable stands can work if there isn’t a good spot available on the wall.

ETA: Yes, I wasn’t a fan of the aesthetics at first either. However, as the placement was infinitely better from an ease of use standpoint than the original installation it didn’t take long to be much less offended by the aesthetics than I had been with the poor ergonomics of the original installation.

I like it where I can reach it with minimal effort but I make concessions for aesthetics. Lets face it, an ass-wipe role is not very attractive, so I prefer it not to be the first thing you see when entering the room. If I lived in a remote cabin in the woods I'd probably not give a "shit" (see what I did there) and just might have a roll sitting on the floor. Since I'm somewhat civilized and have people/family over often (covid not withstanding) I like to make a good impression even with the trivial thing like where the hell the toilet paper hangs.

Exactly as Tatortodd said above. This is the precise same logic I followed.

And I'm an over the top of the roll guy. It seems the hospitality industry agrees as every hotel I ever visited, domestic or abroad, has been over the top with some even folding the corners.

Cats are ok, it's just not my bag to own them. With the exception of a few random encounters every few months (or years), my life could be considered a 99.9% feline free environment.

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Originally posted by mark123:
We have a portable roll holder. It’s on a stand and not fixed to a wall or cabinet.

Same here, can move it as needed or change it out if a remodel happens.

There are standards for these sorts of things!

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According to the National Kitchen and Bath Association, a wall-mounted toilet paper holder works best if installed 26 inches above the floor, on center. "On center" means that the center of the holder, as opposed to the bottom or top of it, is 26 inches above the floor. This installation height works well with standard as well as comfort height, or handicapped, toilets.

The other important measurement is that it should be placed eight to 12 inches, on center, from the toilet to the facing wall. Measure from the very front of the toilet bowl. To optimize this measurement, consider the average height of household members and place it eight to 10 inches from the front of the bowl for shorter users and households with kids; place it 10 to 12 inches in front of the bowl for households consisting of taller members.

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Originally posted by IntrepidTraveler:
There are standards for these sorts of things!

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According to the National Kitchen and Bath Association, a wall-mounted toilet paper holder works best if installed 26 inches above the floor, on center. "On center" means that the center of the holder, as opposed to the bottom or top of it, is 26 inches above the floor. This installation height works well with standard as well as comfort height, or handicapped, toilets.

The other important measurement is that it should be placed eight to 12 inches, on center, from the toilet to the facing wall. Measure from the very front of the toilet bowl. To optimize this measurement, consider the average height of household members and place it eight to 10 inches from the front of the bowl for shorter users and households with kids; place it 10 to 12 inches in front of the bowl for households consisting of taller members.

Remarkably similar (or identical) to the ADA specs I found, which won’t work in our bathroom, unfortunately. Google was the first source I consulted.

-Rob

Hell, more often than not, we end up leaving the roll on the floor next to the pot. Wind off whatcha need, put it back down.

Do not care what direction it come off of the roll or it is sitting on top of the water tank. As long as I can reach it and it is availabe I do not care............................... drill sgt.