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You say there's no way California can surprise you anymore?

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July 09, 2025, 10:56 PM
parabellum
You say there's no way California can surprise you anymore?
Oh?

Apparently real, but of course, the term "real" can't be applied to California.

https://x.com/LaNativePatriot/.../1943101035645669579


July 10, 2025, 12:45 AM
SigSauerP226
https://legiscan.com/CA/text/AB495/id/3220226

Pretty crazy, idk what a non-relative family member is, but I’m guessing cousins, aunts, uncles, etc? Sounds like the minor has to be “living” with the person. I get what they’re trying to do, but sure seems like something that will be abused.




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July 10, 2025, 01:12 AM
sjtill
quote:
Originally posted by SigSauerP226:
https://legiscan.com/CA/text/AB495/id/3220226

Pretty crazy, idk what a non-relative family member is, but I’m guessing cousins, aunts, uncles, etc? Sounds like the minor has to be “living” with the person. I get what they’re trying to do, but sure seems like something that will be abused.



I don't know about the local CA legislators, except for my own; but I do know that nationally a huge proportion of Dem leaders--including people like the head of the NTA--are childless.

My wife and I concluded a long time ago that--no offense to members here intended--people don't really understand life until they've had children. Our older son will go on and on about how becoming a father changed his whole worldview. So Dems who are trying to take over everybody else's lives often don't have skin in the game.


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July 10, 2025, 01:14 AM
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This is the exact text in the Bill:

quote:
AB 495, as amended, Celeste Rodriguez. Family Preparedness Plan Act of 2025.

(1) Under existing law, a caregiver who is 18 years of age or older and signs a caregiver’s authorization affidavit under penalty of perjury for a minor who lives in their home is authorized to enroll the minor in school and consent to school-related medical care on behalf of the minor. Under existing law, a caregiver who is 18 years of age or older, signs the caregiver’s authorization affidavit under penalty of perjury, and who is a certain type of relative of the minor who lives in their home, has the same rights to authorize medical care and dental care for the minor that are given to guardians, as specified. Under existing law, a person who acts in good faith reliance on a completed caregiver’s authorization affidavit to provide medical or dental care, without actual knowledge of facts contrary to those stated on the affidavit, is not subject to criminal or civil liability or professional disciplinary action for that reliance, but is not relieved from liability for violations of other provisions of law.

This bill, the Family Preparedness Plan Act of 2025, would expand the type of person who is authorized to execute a caregiver’s authorization affidavit to include a “nonrelative extended family member,” as defined, and grant them the same rights to authorize school-related medical care, as defined, for the minor that are given to guardians, as specified. By expanding who is authorized to sign a caregiver’s authorization affidavit for these purposes under penalty of perjury, this bill would expand the crime of perjury, thereby imposing a state-mandated local program.
This bill would amend the statutory form for a caregiver’s authorization affidavit.

(2) Existing law generally provides for the establishment and administration of guardianships. Existing law authorizes a court to appoint joint guardians of a person, an estate, or a person and an estate. Existing law requires a nomination of a guardian to become effective when made, and remain effective, unless stated otherwise in writing, as specified.
This bill would authorize a court, in its discretion, to appoint a custodial parent and a person nominated by the custodial parent as joint guardians of the person of the minor, if the custodial parent will be temporarily unavailable due to specified circumstances, including, among other things, an immigration-related administrative action, as specified. The bill would make all records, petitions, orders, and documents related to these proceedings confidential, as specified.
The bill would provide that absence is a basis for a delayed effectiveness of a guardianship and that such circumstances would not be a basis for subsequent legal incapacity for the nomination.


So, not “any adult can take legal control of any child” just by downloading a form like the Twitter guy made it out to be.


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July 10, 2025, 07:31 AM
Expert308
But it doesn't define what a “nonrelative extended family member" is. Presumably that is defined elsewhere in CA law?
July 10, 2025, 07:56 AM
MikeinNC
Non Relative extended family, to me would be the wife of say your brother, or that persons brother-technically the kids uncle but not thru blood



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July 10, 2025, 08:02 AM
Fly-Sig
Is a "caregiver" a legal designation equivalent to conservator or guardian? If it is just an informal category, this is dangerous.