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There are many knowledgeable folks trawling this forum, so I'm hoping one has an answer for my little conundrum.

About 2-3 times a year my personal bathroom sink drain closes off completely. It usually ends up with me pouring collectively about a can of crystal Draino down there, then getting frustrated and carefully draining everything into a bucket, disassembling the drain line, and sticking a snake down there, which punches a hole in whatever is blocking it up, allowing it to drain and kicking the can (so to speak) down the road a few months.

It's probably worth noting that the AC drain line connects up to my sink in particular.

When I pull said snake out of the wall, it's typically covered in what looks like congealed bacon fat. I believe this compound (whatever it is) is to blame for stopping it up. (It is worth noting here that to my knowledge nobody has ever used this sink to dump animal drippings, liquid or otherwise, down this sink.)

I actually tried using a drain bladder for the first time this weekend, and was disappointed to find that either the diameter of the pipe is small enough to clear the bladder but not the hose fitting, or if I disassemble the drain there isn't enough straight pipe for the thing to get a proper purchase.

I'm running out of ideas (patience went when I couldn't get the bladder to work without dumping a ton of water at my feet).

Any suggestions?


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Posts: 3390 | Location: Memphis, TN | Registered: August 23, 2010Reply With QuoteReport This Post
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If it's your AC line causing the problem peroxide will often dissolve the algae/gunk that can build up. Other thing that crossed my mind is maybe a thick shaving cream or something that builds up?
 
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I typically don't use shaving cream.

I'll give the peroxide a go when I get home. Now that I think about it, I probably should have saved a sample of the goo to try stuff on.


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Posts: 3390 | Location: Memphis, TN | Registered: August 23, 2010Reply With QuoteReport This Post
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it could be that another sink (kitchen) drains into this same line...and you are actually getting grease in the line.

Dunno where the sink is in relation to your other plumbing...

Typically, several items drain into one line and then it heads to the sewer/septic...



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When I moved into my house I worked on some drain lines and they were filled with black goo. I used a bacterial drain cleaning product like this and now my drain lines have none of it.

http://www.roebic.com/targeted...rial-solutions.shtml
 
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If you are going the drain cleaner route, there are really only two options: ( Pick one or the other not both )
1. Attack with acidic treatment
2. Attack with basic treatment

There are pros and cons to each. I typically go with option 2 as it is a bit more forgiving to the human body and metal plumbing/fixtures in general.

So, for option 2, look for things with sodium hydroxide (NaOH) or potassium hydroxide (KOH) early in the contents list. For the more seasoned, you may remember lye or lye soap. That has a high sodium hydroxide level.

With either method, follow the directions, limit your exposure to product and fumes as a result of use, then flush with lots of water.

Method 1 does a great job of dissolving hair clogs or food type clogs. Since it is an acid, be careful when adding water. It is best to add acid to water not water to acid. The product will likely contain sulfuric acid (H₂SO₄) or possibly hydrochloric acid (HCl)

Method 2 does a great job of softening hair clogs and does well with fat/grease clogs.

If these fail (and eventually that is likely) one must snake or replace to clear.

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I guess I have a few more things to add to the list of things to try. Thanks guys.

I completely forgot to mention that this is on the second floor. Single family home, so only one kitchen, and it's below the bathroom in question.


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Posts: 3390 | Location: Memphis, TN | Registered: August 23, 2010Reply With QuoteReport This Post
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Try running a zip it down the drain. They're $3 at Home Depot and usually work really well for bathroom sinks.
 
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I had this happen to the floor drain that the humidifier and condensate drain for the AC unit go into from our furnace.

I believe it is some sort of algae or mold. Mine was pretty clear, and very gelatinous.

I cleaned it out with a snake to open the drain and then used hot water directly from the hot water heater drain to flush it really good.

I keep an eye on it now, and it hasn't returned and as a preventative I pour a strong bleach and water solution down both the humidifier drain and AC condensate drain line once a year.




 
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Be careful if you try different things to open up the initial clog. Not a good idea to combine different products in a pipe that's not free flowing.

I don't have any first-hand experience and thus can't give a brand recommendation, but you can buy tablets to put in your AC drain pan to prevent algae from growing in the pipes.
 
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I had this happen to the floor drain that the humidifier and condensate drain for the AC unit go into from our furnace.

I believe it is some sort of algae or mold. Mine was pretty clear, and very gelatinous.

I cleaned it out with a snake to open the drain and then used hot water directly from the hot water heater drain to flush it really good.

I keep an eye on it now, and it hasn't returned and as a preventative I pour a strong bleach and water solution down both the humidifier drain and AC condensate drain line once a year.


Ditto, I pour bleach in the pump for my condensation reservoir in my basement every month. The previous pump got severely clogged from algae, as I did not know to pour just a small cup in the pump every month.


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I cleaned it out with a snake to open the drain and then used hot water directly from the hot water heater drain to flush it really good.


Your house has a hot water heater? Mine only has a cold water heater. Razz

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Be careful if you try different things to open up the initial clog.


This is extremely important. This thread has many recommendations of incompatible chemicals. Whatever you try, make sure you don't try one after the other. Give it days with lots of water between. It is very easy to build up toxic gases in the pipe.




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About once-a-week or so simply fill the sink with hot water from the tap and, once it's full, open the drain. Let the hot water continue to run until the sink has drained.

Might keep it clear.



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Keep in mind that liquids only clean out a small portion of the drain on the bottom of the pipe.

A good rotary snake will help scrape the walls of the pipe. I have heard of the stuff previously mentioned that eats the gunk, but no experience with it.


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An AC draining into a copper line will grow algae. Kinda hard to understand how grease could get in there, you said bathroom not kitchen, right?

So bleach or white vinegar should keep the algae at bay. So once you have it cleared pour in a good cup full of either and that should keep this flowing. Flush with a good pint to quart of water after letting it soak for a few minutes.


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I keep used dryer sheets and place one over my bathroom sink drain when I shave. This has significantly reduced the interval of having to clean out the drain.


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An AC draining into a copper line will grow algae. Kinda hard to understand how grease could get in there, you said bathroom not kitchen, right?

So bleach or white vinegar should keep the algae at bay. So once you have it cleared pour in a good cup full of either and that should keep this flowing. Flush with a good pint to quart of water after letting it soak for a few minutes.


Correct. Upstairs bathroom, kitchen is below it. Thick, opaque white sludge.

I dumped a thing of peroxide down there this afternoon. I'll let it sit till tomorrow before I go back at it again.


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Yum. Bio slime.

Just go full on assault at it. Drano it a few times, then every week, hit it with a mixture of vinegar, hot water, and baking soda...and maybe bleach for good measure. This is war.

There must be some sort of deposits on the insides of the pipes that are giving the slime an area to build up.
 
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I actually tried using a drain bladder for the first time this weekend, and was disappointed to find that either the diameter of the pipe is small enough to clear the bladder but not the hose fitting, or if I disassemble the drain there isn't enough straight pipe for the thing to get a proper purchase.


The hose doesn't have to be inserted into the drain, just the bladder. It swells up and then the pressure clears the line.
Just be sure to plug/cover the sink's overflow port. Wink

If you want to snake one down a drain, try a Drain Dawg.
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