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I didn’t post this at the time but I was on post trying to get my decals and some uniform items. Soon as I left my sponsor mentioned the were on lock down due to a shooting incident. I don’t know whether it was RTC or Great Lakes, most likely the latter with GMs performing training on the range. I also don’t know if anyone was seriously injured or wounded but I hope not. With as many recruits and seaman coming through this location performing qualifications, it’s amazing there are this few incidents. I’ll likely hear about it tomorrow when I report for my first day. Nine years to retirement! Just waiting! | ||
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Thread drift: What's the E1-E6 uniform these days? Crackerjacks or that USMC looking outfit? Be careful when following the masses. Sometimes the M is silent. | |||
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Working uniform is the green cammies. Service is the khaki shirt and black pants, “peanut butters” Dress is still the same old whites and blues depending on season and location, but, they finally gave us a zipper! Nine years to retirement! Just waiting! | |||
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Next thing they’ll decide they need train you on using said sliding hasp interlocking toothed fastener.This message has been edited. Last edited by: Sig2340, Nice is overrated "It's every freedom-loving individual's duty to lie to the government." Airsoftguy, June 29, 2018 | |||
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https://www.navytimes.com/news...on-great-lakes-dies/ Is this the incident? ------- Trying to simplify my life... | |||
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They were just opening the new live fire training facility right before I left. My last division was my only one that used it. All my other divisions only used the simulator. They had closed the old live fire range before I got there due to lead contamination. I can’t begin to make a guess how they do it now. When they first opened it there were all sorts of controls. I had to drop off my division and leave the range. No ammo was broken out untill all the RDCs were off site. It was the only training event throughout boot camp that we could not attend. “We truly live in a wondrous age of stupid.” - 83v45magna "I think it's important that people understand free speech doesn't mean free from consequences societally or politically or culturally." -Pranjit Kalita, founder and CIO of Birkoa Capital Management | |||
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Great Lakes has had a rash of suicides lately. Only one of the victims was attending RTC, the others doesn't say what their capacities were other than the oddity that their deaths were very close in time. Suicides amongst recruits happen, often times there were not right in the head to begin with, whereas the other sailors had been in-service for some time with several rotations of fleet time. https://news.usni.org/2025/08/...s-local-coroner-says
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Were they worried that the recruits were going to shoot the RDCs? So when there was no live-fire facility available, were they training and qualifying people using only a simulator? Or did that happen later on somewhere else? ----------------------------------------------------------- Any comments made by this poster are my own and do not reflect the views or opinions of my employer. | |||
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Yes. That is exactly what they were concerned with. Closing the live fire range was an unexpected necessity. As I understood it, the base hospital had some cases of young children getting sick due to heavy metal poisoning. The common thread was their parents worked at the range on RTC. The investigation revealed that there was so much lead contamination that the staff was bringing home on their boots and uniforms. I don’t recall anyone dying or permanently harmed but the range was immediately sealed up. It took years to design and build the new facility. For the Navy, the live fire training at boot camp means absolutely nothing. Anyone who is going to use a firearm will be trained and qualified by the command that they will be at. Sailors can go their entire career and never touch a firearm. As for the suicide aspect, unfortunately recruits have been doing it as long as there have been boot camps. I cut shoelaces from a pipe with my pocket knife while I held a recruit's weight up off of his neck. Unfortunately, I wasn’t there for others. “We truly live in a wondrous age of stupid.” - 83v45magna "I think it's important that people understand free speech doesn't mean free from consequences societally or politically or culturally." -Pranjit Kalita, founder and CIO of Birkoa Capital Management | |||
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Part of my safety briefing that I read at the start of every training session but which I have never heard mentioned by anyone else regarding shooting cautions: “Lead is a toxic substance and when we shoot we’re exposed to lead. It is on the ground, on weapons, and on cartridges and cases. Avoid smoking or placing fingers in your mouth on the range and wash before eating. Anyone who is around children (or women who are or who might be pregnant) should seek additional information about lead exposure hazards.” ► 6.0/94.0 “I can’t give you brains, but I can give you a diploma.” — The Wizard of Oz | |||
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