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October 14, 2017, 11:47 PM
ZSMICHAEL
BEST GUN SAFE to fit in typical closet
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This message has been edited. Last edited by: ZSMICHAEL, October 18, 2017 07:33 AM
October 15, 2017, 12:08 AM
Edmond
Best advice I have is to buy bigger than what you need now or think you will need. Buy once, cry once. Big Grin


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October 15, 2017, 12:49 AM
Fenris
I tried that. Yet over the years the safe still became too small. I think someone washed it in hot water.




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October 15, 2017, 02:47 AM
arfmel
I'd do my best to put it in a closet that can be locked shut so the safe isn't easily noticed. I absolutely wouldn't put it in the garage. Do you have a trustworthy friend or family member nearby who could keep your weapons for you while the work is being done? I think the best path is to not let any of the workers know there are ever guns there at all. They may be honest but their cousin Enrique maybe not so much.

A gun safe will hardly slow down a determined thief, particularly one who has time and power tools.
October 15, 2017, 05:49 AM
Warhorse
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BEST GUN SAFE to fit in typical closet

I would think the largest safe that would fit in that space, with the most quality that you could afford, would be your answer.


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October 15, 2017, 08:34 AM
vthoky
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Originally posted by ZSMICHAEL:
I am having work done of my interior and cannot be there 24/7.


If you're aiming to store things temporarily, could a job-site tool box (i.e. Jobox) be a short-term solution?

(I do realize that doesn't suit your "fit in a closet" application.)




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October 15, 2017, 08:45 AM
StorminNormin
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Originally posted by ZSMICHAEL:
Can also order online and have delivered. Cost not a factor.


I purchased from https://www.deansafe.com and I was very happy with their prices and delivery.




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October 15, 2017, 08:53 AM
trapper189
I know you say "cost is not a factor", but unless you want to spend a lot of money for an actual safe (at least $5k for a used one) there isn't much difference security wise in gun safes. They can all be opened up in a few minutes with $200 or less in tools from Home Depot.
October 15, 2017, 01:07 PM
a1abdj
The AMSEC BF series is one of the only gun safes that will actually perform as advertised. Although a bit more expensive than some of the Liberties, Champions, etc., they are one of the best gun safes in their price range.

Rolland is the closest full service safe company that sells AMSECs to you. Their New Orleans office is about 70 miles away.

I can also ship anything AMSEC, although I still suggest shopping locally if possible.


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October 15, 2017, 01:36 PM
radioman
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Originally posted by a1abdj:
The AMSEC BF series is one of the only gun safes that will actually perform as advertised.



I assume with the mechanical lock and not the electric lock????????

I notice there is a choice to be had there.


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October 15, 2017, 01:51 PM
a1abdj
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I assume with the mechanical lock and not the electric lock????????



I still prefer mechanical locks, but most of the modern electronic locks are not horrible. Some people need electronics for the speed, ability to set their own combinations, time delayed opening, audit trails, etc.

I still see more failures out of electronics than mechanicals (although both can fail), and I suspect 100 years from now the mechanical lock will still work whereas the electronic likely would not.


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October 15, 2017, 03:46 PM
dry-fly
Everybody slams electric/ keypad locks, but I’m in and out of my safe 6,7 plus times a day and a mechanical lock would be a real pita. Ive been very happy with my Fort Knox safe, great warranty if ever needed. If I were buying again, i would pay less attention to aesthetics and more attention to size and steel. You’ll find that it will quickly fill up with other misc crap.

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October 15, 2017, 04:05 PM
hrcjon
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AMSEC BF series

Not that AMSEC doesn't have good products, but this is RSC rated so what would make it better than another RSC rated product?
(I'm shopping which is why I ask).


“So in war, the way is to avoid what is strong, and strike at what is weak.”
October 15, 2017, 04:09 PM
a1abdj
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but this is RSC rated so what would make it better than another RSC rated product?



This is true across the rating spectrum. The rating is a minimum requirement. Anything that meets it passes, including those that would surpass.

As far as the BF is concerned, it has a solid plate door (either 3/8" or 1/2" depending on model), and a dual walled body filled with a cast, purpose engineered fire fill.

Your typical gun safe has a "refrigerator" door that is 1/8" wrapped around some gypsum to appear thick, and a single walled body with gypsum board leaned up against the inside of it.


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October 15, 2017, 04:16 PM
JD DRIVER
Make sure your floor can handle what ever you get!!! Some safes can go over 1000 pounds. Thats a lot of weight in a small area.
October 15, 2017, 06:49 PM
4MUL8R
Amsec. No question. Garage? I think it depends. Mine is in the garage. Maybe next time, next house, I'll put it in the master bedroom.

There is no way you can hold that many pistols and revolvers without seriously mapping out the shelves, racks, hanging door hooks, and all that goes with pistols. I have a combination interior and I think it would be terribly difficult to put more than 25 handguns in my interior. Using racks, you gain some organizational space, but lose actual space.

I forget the model number but it is five feet tall and 30 inches wide.


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October 15, 2017, 06:55 PM
a1abdj
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have a combination interior and I think it would be terribly difficult to put more than 25 handguns in my interior.



Use 2 safes. One with the universal interior for long arms, and the second ordered as an all shelf unit for the pistols.


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October 15, 2017, 07:29 PM
arfmel
If you put the pistols in "Bore Stores" silicone treated fleece cases I imagine you can get 25 handguns on a couple of shelves in a safe. I've used them for years and have never had a problem with rust or damage to anything I've stored in them.

http://www.borestores.com/orde...&nav=Handgun%20Cases
October 15, 2017, 07:34 PM
ZSMICHAEL
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If you put the pistols in "Bore Stores" silicone treated fleece cases I imagine you can get 25 handguns on a couple of shelves in a safe. I've used them for years and have never had a problem with rust or damage to anything I've stored in them.


Thanks. We have gulf coast humidity, but assume you have not lived in Jerkwater the whole time. West texas bone dry.
October 15, 2017, 07:34 PM
BBMW
About the electronic vs mechanical lock issue, I'm seeing designs now that have both, either two separate locks, or a single lock that is a combination of both. What do think of both of these systems?
quote:
Originally posted by a1abdj:
quote:
I assume with the mechanical lock and not the electric lock????????



I still prefer mechanical locks, but most of the modern electronic locks are not horrible. Some people need electronics for the speed, ability to set their own combinations, time delayed opening, audit trails, etc.

I still see more failures out of electronics than mechanicals (although both can fail), and I suspect 100 years from now the mechanical lock will still work whereas the electronic likely would not.