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Ammoholic
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posted September 18, 2019 08:06 PM
Talk to someone from GB or Canada about their health care, I urge you. They will say they like it, ignore that part. Ask them waiting times, ask them about extraordinary care just listen to what they say.

What the F Republicans?

I don't want rationed, government supplied anything, especially health care.


Government-run health care, universal Medicare buy-ins backed by most Dem primary voters: Fox News Poll


As health care continues to become a central issue heading into the 2020 presidential election season, Democrats indicate they favor offering some form of a government-run system, according to a Fox News Poll.

In an effort to move closer to universal coverage, 83 percent of Democrats favor a Medicare buy-in plan, which would allow individuals, regardless of age, to buy into the government-run system. Fifty-one percent of Republicans agreed.

Currently, the taxpayer-funded program covers Americans 65 and older. Overall, 10 percent of voters said a candidate who holds a health care position different than theirs is a deal-breaker.

READ THE FULL RESULTS OF THE FOX NEWS POLL. - Couldn't make link work from phone. Not sure if link is broken or not supported by my phone.

On Tuesday, House Speaker Nancy Pelosi came out against the "Medicare-for-all" proposal. She said the presidential candidates should embrace the Affordable Care Act to achieve universal healthcare.

"I believe that the path... to healthcare for all is a path that is following the lead of the Affordable Care Act," she on CNBC's "Mad Money"

Sen. Michael Bennet of Colorado said the Medicare plan would set the country back 10 years.

When asked if they supported getting rid of private health insurance and moving to a government-run option for everyone, 61 percent of Democrats, compared to 27 percent of Republicans, either strongly or somewhat favored the plan. The majority of House Democrats supported replacing private health insurance with a government plan to cover everyone.

Making minor changes to the Affordable Care Act while keeping it largely in place received support from 72 percent of Democrats. Republicans polled at 40 percent.

The presidential field of Democrats has engaged in intense clashes over their health care visions.

Former Vice President Joe Biden and former Obama administration official Julian Castro exchanged barbs over ObamaCare during last week's debate in Houston.

Under a plan put forth by Sanders, individuals would be enrolled in the "Medicare-type" option automatically if they lost their jobs.

Massachusetts Sen. Elizabeth Warren was criticized for not directly answering whether taxes would go up under her Medicare-for-all plan.

In the race for the Democratic nomination, Biden is still polling ahead of his opponents at 29 percent, followed by Sanders at 18 percent and Warren at 16 percent. Forty-two percent of Democratic primary voters also feel Biden has the best shot at beating President Trump.

Democrats divide 43 percent and 49 percent over whether their vote in the primary will center on building on former President Obama's legacy or taking a new approach, respectively.

The poll was conducted from Sunday through Tuesday during telephone interviews with 1,008 registered voters nationwide.

Conducted September 15-17, 2019 under the joint direction of Beacon Research (D) and Shaw & Company (R), this Fox News Poll includes interviews with 1,008 randomly chosen registered voters nationwide who spoke with live interviewers on both landlines and cellphones. The poll has a margin of sampling error of plus or minus three percentage points for all registered voters.



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posted September 18, 2019 08:16 PMHide Post
A poll you say?

I think that poll may be sick.
 
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posted September 18, 2019 08:41 PMHide Post
The Medicare for all program is NOT understood by most Americans, let alone Dems. It is not the Medicare program that seniors have. It has no chance in hell of ever becoming law in my lifetime. It is not something that concerns me.
 
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posted September 18, 2019 08:45 PMHide Post
Not scared.


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posted September 18, 2019 09:01 PMHide Post
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Originally posted by 12131:
Not scared.


I wish I shared you confidence. The push towards socialism being an acceptable thing to believe in is insane. Socialism is getting normalized and accepted then amplified by MSM. We are taking a turn towards the left big time. Obama couldn't get nominated today, he'd be called a Nazi for his immigration policy. 27% Republicans is a scary number, let's say it's only 15%,. That number would still scare the hell out of me.



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posted September 18, 2019 09:03 PMHide Post
Many like the idea of getting it for ‘free’. They mostly think it will continue to be what it’s been, for most.

They don’t really think logically about it.
 
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posted September 18, 2019 10:32 PMHide Post
I am with Q. No way is it gonna happen. Big Pharma, large private insurance companies do not support the plan in any way.
 
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posted September 19, 2019 02:17 AMHide Post
Based upon my experiences after getting laid off in my mid'50's, I can understand the numbers in favor of Uncle Sam health insurance for all.

If you have a full time permanent employee job, or lots of spare cash, private health insurance is ok. Otherwise, you're fucked.

I concur with Limbaugh who states that 'health' insurance is a misnomer. You're not really insuring your health, like a car, house or even life.

Insurance is a for profit enterprise - just like casino's. You will not beat the house in the long term, and you're lucky if you beat the house in the short term.

My new contract agency provided health insurance, costs me 100 dollars a month more for less care / more out of pocket expense than my former non-contract employer had for me. The agencies dental insurance is not carried by my long time dentist whom I do not want to give up. So I just paid out of pocket my expense, and did not have the annual x-rays taken - gotta cut costs, especially when now earring 1995 wages - not adjusted for inflation. If I adjust for inflation I get suicidal.

Private insurance has gotten way too greedy. Yea, Yea Obama-care, but that too was enabled by their greed.

Too me, if you're in the boat of the less fortunate, Uncle Sam insurance is not going to be any-worse than private insurance. Both ration - one to control profits, the other - well it is the government after all.

I'm not in favor of Uncle Sam insurance, but private insurance is a scam too. Now, which of the 2 is running the bigger scam?

Based on a board member's explanation of the Hospital - Insurance - Pharmaceutical Complex of a few years ago, I'm starting to wonder about the lesser of to evils when it comes to health insurance.


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posted September 19, 2019 01:03 PMHide Post
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Not scared.


Nor am I.

If the poll is even true, remember John McCain was a “republican” too.

I have strong doubt about the legitimacy of any “poll”




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posted September 19, 2019 01:10 PMHide Post
Always remember: the "P" in "Poll" stands for propaganda. No matter what side puts it out.
 
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posted September 19, 2019 02:35 PMHide Post
It used to be that the British NHS covered everyone. It wasn’t great care, but if you didn’t like it, you could always get BUPA of other private insurance or pay out of pocket. Go to Harley Street if you like and have the coin. Now the British government goes to court to preclude people attempting to save their child with care outside the NHS system. Not only “No!”, but “Hell NO!” To government run healthcare.

As others have said, there are too many folks with too much lobbying dollars for it to go that way, but Hell NO! anyway.
 
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posted September 19, 2019 02:45 PMHide Post
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Not only “No!”, but “Hell NO!” To government run healthcare.

Yep.
These people who want to control us... they want the ultimate control: deciding who lives and who dies.



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posted September 19, 2019 10:05 PMHide Post
Telephone survey; most opinions are from those too stupid to avoid answering unknown telephone numbers.

They will never find out my opinion that way.
 
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posted September 19, 2019 10:11 PMHide Post
One more step to oppressive government




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