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RE: the lethal kinetic strikes on Venezuelan drug runners

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October 07, 2025, 03:13 PM
RichardC
RE: the lethal kinetic strikes on Venezuelan drug runners
What kind of weapons technology are these projectiles and their delivery systems?
October 07, 2025, 03:20 PM
Rawny
The one posted last week looked like a giant shotgun blast. You can see the splashes all around the boat when it got lit up. Cluster munitions?

None of the videos showed anything entering the frame and landing on the boat. One moment it's moving, the next it's stopped and in flames.


October 07, 2025, 03:31 PM
Patriot
Hellfire maybe?


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October 07, 2025, 03:32 PM
Sig2340
No, more likely an missile with some form of VT fuze that detonates the warhead 50 feet above the boat. Given the exposed petrol tanks, that's how I'd do it





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October 07, 2025, 03:55 PM
PASig
C'mon. We all know they were nuked from orbit.


October 07, 2025, 04:24 PM
229DAK
Hellfire with impact fuze, laser guided. Hot shrapnel from the warhead would immediately blow up the fuel tanks. Perps on board didn't know what hit them, no time for the "awe shit" to go from the eyes to the brain. Probably launched from a helo or drone.


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October 07, 2025, 04:31 PM
Mars_Attacks
Eric Von Hessler has been whining about this continuously on WSB.

I absolutely DESPISE that ignorant stupid douchebag prick.


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October 07, 2025, 06:24 PM
pedropcola
People have watched pirates in the Gulf acting with impunity for so long that they have started believing international law allows no action against them. They think you have to chase them down and try them in court. Then they see a Russian warship light them up with their version of CIWS and they think the Russians areacting crazy. Nope. Piracy or terrorism on the high seas has long been covered by maritime/intl law. We just haven’t had the stomach to act prior to this. The Barbary Pirates were a relatively tough nut to crack back in the day, today? Not so much.
October 07, 2025, 07:42 PM
hberttmank
quote:
Originally posted by PASig:
C'mon. We all know they were nuked from orbit.

It's the only way to be sure.



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October 07, 2025, 08:19 PM
Lunasee
I hope it's the Ginsu bomb (RX9).
October 07, 2025, 08:40 PM
wrightd
quote:
Originally posted by hberttmank:
quote:
Originally posted by PASig:
C'mon. We all know they were nuked from orbit.

It's the only way to be sure.

My Fav Alien movie.




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October 07, 2025, 08:46 PM
LS1 GTO
quote:
Originally posted by Patriot:
Hellfire maybe?


CBP operating out of the Gulf Coast with Predators. 2 hellfires per plane. 48 hours aloft time.

Persistence surveillance.






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October 07, 2025, 10:06 PM
JoseyWales2
quote:
Originally posted by Sig2340:
No, more likely an missile with some form of VT fuze that detonates the warhead 50 feet above the boat. Given the exposed petrol tanks, that's how I'd do it


Kind of what I was thinking too. The apparent shotgun blast effect on the water is shrapnel from the warhead after an air burst detonation. There is a Hellfire variant with a blast/frag warhead and "programmable fuzing".


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October 08, 2025, 02:15 PM
architect
The warhead was sinply moving too fast to be picked up by the camera.

I cringe when Hollywood shows a missile/comet/meteor/satellite strike, they take pains to show the incoming track for effect. In reality, to those at or observing the impact site the strike would actually appear to be an explosion because the kinetic object will be moving faster than the eye can see. Maybe it leaves a trail of condensation, but that is only observable well after the strike has occurred.
October 08, 2025, 03:18 PM
229DAK
Still assuming this kinetic kill was done by a Hellfire missile, most likely it was the AGM-114R variant, the current production model. It has only a semi-active laser seeker; there is no radar or variable time (VT) fuse incorporated into the missile. Why one does not see it in the video - it's traveling over Mach 1.
quote:
I hope it's the Ginsu bomb (RX9)
Not necessary in this case. The AGM-114R-9X was developed with the intent to reduce collateral damage when targeting specific people. Here they are destroying the entire boat.


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October 09, 2025, 07:45 PM
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