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October 03, 2017, 11:06 AM
280nosler
Gas cans and gas can storage
You will be better off using a shaker style siphon than any donkey dicks (fuel can nozzle) you will find, that is unless you like loosing 10% of your fuel.
October 03, 2017, 11:53 AM
henryaz
 
This is the nozzle I got for my NATO cans.
 
October 03, 2017, 04:44 PM
MikeGLI
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Originally posted by sigcrazy7:
What's the final verdict here fellas? Go with Wavian, or GELG? Or is it six of one and half-dozen the other?


After seeing mine and understanding what Atlantic ships, I'd go with Atlantic.


quote:
Originally posted by mbinky:
Do those cans have a reddish orange coating on the inside? I ask because the green one I bought from Wavian does not say "not for fuel use" on the side and has the coating (dosen't say "petrol" either). It is CARB certified for fuel when you use the CARB nozzle (I bought a standard spout from aBay UK).

I wonder is Wavian builds cans different for different markets.


No coating inside, green as the outside.


quote:
Originally posted by tsmccull:
The Wavians I received from Atlantic have a full width weld where the handles attach to the cans, rather than the right and left tab welds as the GELG photo appears to show. Plus they're marked as being ok for fuel use and have an orange colored inside. Of course they're more expensive since Atlantic wasn't offering free shipping when I bought mine about a month ago, so you have to consider that too.


Yes, I'm a little dissapointed about the welds but quite honestly, these will likely sit empty for most of their existence and I'm telling myself that to move on. I was under the impression that the Atlantic cans were also marked "not for fuel use" but could be wrong. I think the donkey dick spout on the Wavian looks more robust and has better venting than that of the Gelg.




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October 03, 2017, 04:53 PM
cas
They Atlantic cans just come with a sticker (you can peel off) that says For non potable water. At first I thought that was their way around something. But the cans are marked Petrol. My can came with a strong internal oder of some chemical, so I'm starting to think the sticker may be an honest "Hey don't drink out of this" as much as CARB ass covering. Smile

I think the Atlantic site actually suggests you don't buy the flexible nozzle.


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October 03, 2017, 09:31 PM
jimb888
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Originally posted by henryaz:
 
This is the nozzle I got for my NATO cans.
 


I have that nozzle and don't ever spill a drop. Your listing notes it's $33, I believe I paid $19. I thought $19 was steep. I will add that Old Grouch did a run of epdm gaskets so you can replace the rubber. Get them now, toss them in the corner and replace when needed. I'm in year 3 and my rubber gaskets are still flawless (5 cans total). If I roll a full can over and around, it won't spill a drop. These are designed to have a small air space in the top, don't try and beat that by overfilling it by tipping the can. The small air space gives it a little room to maneuver- expand contract.

If you are concerned about air -fuel contact, perhaps it's better to just put in some PRI-G or Stabil 360.
October 03, 2017, 10:07 PM
henryaz
quote:
Originally posted by jimb888:
Your listing notes it's $33, I believe I paid $19.

$20 sounds about what I paid. I couldn't find the link to where I bought it, but the Amazon link at least shows the product.
 
October 03, 2017, 11:18 PM
cas
IIRC Atlantic British prices are a bit higher through Amazon than ordering off their site, so you both might be right.


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October 03, 2017, 11:22 PM
signewt
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Originally posted by henryaz:
 
This is the nozzle I got for my NATO cans.
 

this is the one SwissLink(?) replaced the original POS-CALDOT/whatever licensing authority was that was thrilled about the 2 piece place POS leaking joint one I mentioned here recently.

In using the Wayvian (green) 5.2gal (20L?) the last 4 months, it has been absolutely perfect.

Even the fail spout has a marvelous attaching mechanism, that if all else failed, I would tear the plastic leaker end off and use the stub....but the photo above has worked well for me the last 2 months in Lawn Tractor use. It is open with no stopper, so requires removal when done.


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October 03, 2017, 11:33 PM
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quote:
I have a couple vintage Jerry cans, used when I acquired them 40 years ago. The old flexible metal 'donkey dick' spouts that screw in are very difficult to locate.


Will these fit?

http://www.ebay.com/itm/Replac...p2047675.c100623.m-1


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October 03, 2017, 11:50 PM
41
Rover has them on sale for $18.95

http://www.roverparts.com/cart/ShowCart.cfm


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October 04, 2017, 11:25 AM
MikeGLI
For what it's worth, Deutschoptik sent me another spout/nozzle, not just the replacement plastic piece but the entire unit. So I now have two donkey dicks.

Good luck!




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October 15, 2017, 12:42 PM
sigcrazy7
Roverparts.com just notified me that the Wavians are back in stock, so I just ordered from Atlantic British, again.

A couple of weeks ago I received a 5L can to check out the quality, but I only owned it for about 5 minutes before my son realized it fit perfectly in a recess on his four-wheeler, and that the OD green perfectly matches his green plastics. Smile

So now the re-order.

I've got 8-20L, 2-10L, and 2-5L, 2 spouts, and a couple packages of gaskets. It worked out to about $575.00 after their 10% discount. I'm giving half of these to my brother, so it's not as crazy as it seems. If these other Wavian cans are anything like the little 5L I already received, I should be please. Buy once, cry once.

Four of these new 20L cans, along with the 6 NATO surplus ones I already have, should let me store 50 gallons. You never know when you'll need 50 gallons of non-potable "water." Wink



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October 15, 2017, 01:40 PM
wreckdiver
I have not read the whole thread, so if mentioned before, feel free to beat me up. Wink

I store gas in 15 gal soap containers I got from the local car wash, cleaned out thoroughly, and the dried thoroughly.

Instead of Stabil, I use Pri-G for gas and Pri-D for kerosene. Right now I am using 4 year old non-ethanol gas and replacing it without a single problem.


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October 15, 2017, 04:14 PM
S600MBUSA
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Originally posted by sigcrazy7:


I've got 8-20L, 2-10L, and 2-5L, 2 spouts, and a couple packages of gaskets. It worked out to about $575.00 after their 10% discount. I'm giving half of these to my brother, so it's not as crazy as it seems. If these other Wavian cans are anything like the little 5L I already received, I should be please. Buy once, cry once.



What's this about a 10% discount?


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October 15, 2017, 05:16 PM
sigcrazy7
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What's this about a 10% discount?


When I first put something into the cart, a popup appeared and offered me 10% my first order if I agreed to be spammed. Sure, I’ll take 10% off so you can spam an email account I don’t check, I thought.

Although it wasn’t my first order, I didn’t use a code for the first little can. They sent me a code in my email that knocked 10% off at checkout. It saved me about $55.

I’m guessing they offer one code per email, regardless if it’s the first order, when you agree to be on the mailing list.



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October 15, 2017, 06:38 PM
mike28w
I have a 7500 watt generator.... I've been toying with the concept of storing aviation fuel for it.

Avgas is more refined and has a shelf life of about 3 years ( if I remember correctly). I know of folks who have started airplanes that haven't run in 10 years with the old gas in it and they tell me that it seems to run fine.

AvGas is 100 octane so it's a little higher than premium and it does have a small amount of lead in it. Since I'm pretty sure that my generator or ATV for that matter doesn't have a catalytic converter , so that shouldn't matter. At my airport , it presently sells for $5.20/gal so it's not something you would want to use on a regular basis.

Still thinking about it ! mike
October 24, 2017, 01:11 PM
ChuckFinley
These European military spec flameproof metal jerry cans are the preferred way to store and transport non-potable liquid. Their tough NATO-style body makes them extra durable and fuel safe interior liner means that you will never have to worry about corrosion. These cans are great for off-road adventures or as an emergency backup! Don't get caught with your knock off cans from China falling apart, get these instead.

Note: Federal law prohibits the use of this container for the storage of fuel.

I'm guessing this is some sort of emissions/ozone/environmentalist clap trap. What else are they for except the storage of fuel?




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October 24, 2017, 01:27 PM
tsmccull
EPA requires a nearly useless nozzle on the can and the can painted red before they'll give their blessing for use to store fuel. Make your own decision on that.
October 24, 2017, 02:59 PM
mbinky
According to the Wavian USA website all colors of their Jerry cans are CARB and EPA certified for use with fuel as long as they are used with the "safety" spout they ship with.
October 24, 2017, 05:14 PM
Gustofer
$75 for shipping?! Eek


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