FL permitless carry goes in effect 7/1/2023.

Can a non-resident of FL, while visiting FL, also carry in FL without a permit?

Thanks!

Not for nonresidents. Permitless carry applies to citizens of the state only AFAIK, at least that's the way it is in every other permitless carry state.

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Originally posted by akcopnfbks:
Not for nonresidents. Permitless carry applies to citizens of the state only AFAIK, at least that's the way it is in every other permitless carry state.

Incorrect.

Can you explain please ^^^^^

What if I don't live in Florida and want to conceal carry? Does Florida have reciprocity? Yes. Non-residents may carry concealed weapons or firearms provided they are 21 or older and not prevented by Florida law to possess them for any other reason. The age requirement doesn't apply to servicemembers or veterans.

From the bottom of the page at this link.

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Originally posted by 83v45magna:
What if I don't live in Florida and want to conceal carry? Does Florida have reciprocity? Yes. Non-residents may carry concealed weapons or firearms provided they are 21 or older and not prevented by Florida law to possess them for any other reason. The age requirement doesn't apply to servicemembers or veterans.

From the bottom of the page at this link.

Man... the way they worded that....
Those are two SEPARATE questions, making it confusing.

(They've always had reciprocity, which has nothing to do with permitless carry.)

For anyone that isn’t aware of this, it’s a great resource.

https://handgunlaw.us/

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Originally posted by PR64:
Can you explain please ^^^^^

Most states that are constitutional carry DO NOT require a person to be a resident of the state in order to permitless carry.

I say "most" because it's possible one of the many constitutional carry states requires it, and in fact I don't know if Florida does, but a huge majority certainly don't, and I expect Florida will be the same.

https://www.flsenate.gov/Sessi...23/543/?Tab=BillText

Read the law and come to your own conclusion: Fl synopsis:

Public Safety; Authorizes person to carry concealed weapon or firearm if he or she is licensed to do so or meets specified requirements; requires person who is carrying concealed weapon or firearm without license to carry identification & display upon demand by law enforcement; prohibits person who is carrying concealed weapon or firearm without license from carrying such weapon or firearm in specified locations; authorizes nonresident to carry concealed weapon or firearm in this state if he or she meets same requirements as resident; requires Office of Safe Schools to develop behavioral threat management operational process. APPROPRIATION: $60,177,846

Effective Date: 7/1/2023
Last Action: 4/3/2023 - Chapter No. 2023-18
Bill Text: PDF

I believe Idaho, Wyoming, and North Dakota are permitless carry states that do not allow nonresidents to carry concealed handguns without a permit.

They are NOT an open carry state however.
I also would carry your state ID if you're from out of state as I think that's required.

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Originally posted by sig2392:
https://www.flsenate.gov/Sessi...23/543/?Tab=BillText

Read the law and come to your own conclusion: Fl synopsis:

Public Safety; Authorizes person to carry concealed weapon or firearm if he or she is licensed to do so or meets specified requirements; requires person who is carrying concealed weapon or firearm without license to carry identification & display upon demand by law enforcement; prohibits person who is carrying concealed weapon or firearm without license from carrying such weapon or firearm in specified locations; authorizes nonresident to carry concealed weapon or firearm in this state if he or she meets same requirements as resident; requires Office of Safe Schools to develop behavioral threat management operational process. APPROPRIATION: $60,177,846

Effective Date: 7/1/2023
Last Action: 4/3/2023 - Chapter No. 2023-18
Bill Text: PDF

^^^THIS Right here, is the best info (and advise!) available right now!

I'm confident that HandgunLaw.us will have a clear summary, including the applicable references to the actual law/text of the statute, but it doesn't go into effect until 7/1/23, so I wouldn't expect to see it there until then.

Everything else on the web is interpreted by 'journalists', and we all know how reliable/accurate they can be, so it's best NOT to rely on anything they've published and/or posted on the internet!

Ultimately it is YOUR responsibility to know, AND be in compliance with the Law...Just sayin'

Be careful with carrying without a permit in FL before July 1st. In some areas of the state they are aggressively prosecuting violations before the rule goes into effect. The state has some real asshole sheriffs and State Attorneys just champing at the bit to harass gun owners. Open carry is an absolute no go unless you are hunting or fishing.

It has been and is legal to carry in your vehicle with a handgun in a holster in the glove box. Long arms can also be in the vehicle securely encased.

After 7/1, open carry will still not be legal.

If you are planning on spending a lot of time here in FL, I'd get a nonresident carry permit to avoid hassles.

I’m not up on this, so what hassles can be avoided after July 1 for non-residents by getting a non-resident Concealed Weapons License in Florida?

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Originally posted by trapper189:
I’m not up on this, so what hassles can be avoided after July 1 for non-residents by getting a non-resident Concealed Weapons License in Florida?

I've included an excerpt of the text of sb150 that was passed.

The permitless carry statute in Florida is not constructed in the same way as constitutional carry statutes in other states. In order to legally carry without a permit, you must be 21 years of age and otherwise meet all requirements you would need to receive a concealed carry permit.

Non-residents are treated similarly, but if they have a concealed carry permit from another state, it is honored under the statute.

The rub lies in exactly what the process will look like for unlicensed people carrying once they are stopped by LEOs. Will they be detained until it can be determined whether or not they'd pass an FDLE background check? Will they be given a citation and a court date to hash it out later? Because the law is still new, it is hard to predict what the process will look like.

The permits bypass any question marks until we have a better idea how enforcement will be handled.

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Thank you. It would seem this applies to residents as well as non-residents. The couple of other states whose permitless carry laws I’ve read have similar language as far as you cannot be a prohibited person.

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Originally posted by trapper189:
Thank you. It would seem this applies to residents as well as non-residents. The couple of other states whose permitless carry laws I’ve read have similar language as far as you cannot be a prohibited person.

I wish they'd have kept it as simple as a presumptive constitutional right to carry for all citizens in the state, except prohibited persons, but the RINOs in Tallahassee were hell bent on snatching partial defeat from the jaws of victory.

Why is this thread not in the subforum for CCw?

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Originally posted by HKAngusKL:
I've included an excerpt of the text of sb150 that was passed.

The permitless carry statute in Florida is not constructed in the same way as constitutional carry statutes in other states. In order to legally carry without a permit, you must be 21 years of age and otherwise meet all requirements you would need to receive a concealed carry permit.

Non-residents are treated similarly, but if they have a concealed carry permit from another state, it is honored under the statute.

The rub lies in exactly what the process will look like for unlicensed people carrying once they are stopped by LEOs. Will they be detained until it can be determined whether or not they'd pass an FDLE background check? Will they be given a citation and a court date to hash it out later? Because the law is still new, it is hard to predict what the process will look like.

The permits bypass any question marks until we have a better idea how enforcement will be handled.

This then brings up an interesting question. There were bunch of states from which FL did not honor the CCLs. Illinois, where I am currently, is an example.
However, with this new permitless carry, they are effectively honoring all CCLs from all states.

Back when I was an LEO in Florida, when a law changed, but had yet to be implemented, it was common in law enforcement circles for "enforcement" to suddenly stop. The state attorneys were on board as well. If something was currently illegal, but would be legal in 45 days, then most cops/supervisors would see the light and no longer make arrest on those charges. The state attorney would delay the court case anyways and just nol-pros the case after the law went into effect...

My buddy is still a cop and received a brief training on the new law. Unsure how roadside background checks will be implemented, but most cops probably wouldn't bother. A real background check would require a fingerprinting and looking through hundreds of pages of court cases, prior arrest, prior convictions, and a road side cop just doesn't have the time or resources to do that, on a road side stop. For all intents and purposes, the new law will likely be considered constitutional carry with minimal "problems" from the majority of sheriffs and police departments in Florida.

North Cuba is a different policing world, with highly aggressive, untrained buffoons, so Id probably see some problems from the south end of the state on enforcement for the new law.