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The one-notch cut comes more than a year after Moody’s changed its outlook on the US rating to negative, with Moody's joining Fitch Ratings and S&P Global Ratings in grading the world’s biggest economy below the top, triple-A position.

The stable outlook reflects balanced risks at Aa1.

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Trump's gonna be pissed!!

And, my thoughts EXACTLY!

I think it’s intentional. Devalue the dollar a bit, lower the interest rate a bit, refinance the debt at a lower rate, save some bucks.

This one-notch downgrade on our 21-notch rating scale reflects the increase over more than a decade in government debt and interest payment ratios to levels that are significantly higher than similarly rated sovereigns.

Successive US administrations and Congress have failed to agree on measures to reverse the trend of large annual fiscal deficits and growing interest costs.

We do not believe that material multi-year reductions in mandatory spending and deficits will result from current fiscal proposals under consideration.

Over the next decade, we expect larger deficits as entitlement spending rises while government revenue remains broadly flat.

In turn, persistent, large fiscal deficits will drive the government's debt and interest burden higher.

The US' fiscal performance is likely to deteriorate relative to its own past and compared to other highly-rated sovereigns.

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Originally posted by nhtagmember:
I think it’s intentional. Devalue the dollar a bit, lower the interest rate a bit, refinance the debt at a lower rate, save some bucks.

I also believe the downgrade in intentional against Trump. But I don't follow how the interest rate will go down. Lower grade loans get higher interest rates because of the lower grade.

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Originally posted by nhtagmember:
I think it’s intentional. Devalue the dollar a bit, lower the interest rate a bit, refinance the debt at a lower rate, save some bucks.

Wouldn’t the rates actually increase with a lower debt rating??

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The Irony Of Moody’s Downgrade Of U.S. Credit

Honestly, I don’t know whether to laugh at the fact that this didn’t happen a decade ago or at the fact that they waited until now.

On Friday, the U.S. lost its last perfect credit rating as Moody’s downgraded it from ‘AAA’ to ‘Aa1,’ citing decades of rising deficits and interest costs. This ends a perfect rating streak held since 1917. Moody’s had warned in 2023 that a downgrade was possible, following similar moves by Fitch in 2023 and S&P in 2011.

The layers of irony behind this downgrade—and its timing—aren’t lost on me.

It’s a farce, really. By the logic Moody’s is now applying, the downgrade should have happened a decade ago, when it became painfully clear that the U.S. had a crippling spending addiction, compounded by a monetary ideology that essentially tried to reverse the fundamental laws of debits and credits.

Yes, it’s bad enough that the U.S. now carries $37 trillion in debt. But what’s worse is that, despite this massive burden, deficits have continued to grow—clear proof that we’ve learned nothing about fiscal restraint. Our refusal to stop putting everything on the national credit card, and our complete disregard for basic math and economic reality, should have triggered multiple downgrades over the past decade.

But the real kicker isn’t just the reckless spending—it’s our full embrace of Modern Monetary Theory, which doesn’t just ignore this irresponsibility but actively encourages it. Yet, somehow, Moody’s didn’t see a problem with monetary policy anytime before Friday.

To quote Peter Gibbons in Office Space:

It's Not That I'm Lazy; It's That I Just Don't Care.

Every time Paul Krugman wrote another column or Stephanie Kelton published a new book—and then got a national media platform to promote it—the U.S. deserved a downgrade.

Every time the Federal Reserve and the people responsible for advocating asinine monetary theory put on full display their inability to understand the economy or forecast economic events, it should have sent a message to rating agencies that the country is flying blind when it comes to fiscal and monetary policy, and that we deserved a downgrade.

When Ben Bernanke publicly said things like “we can print money at no cost,” the country should have been downgraded.

When Bernanke said the subprime crisis was “contained”, before it caused the collapse of the entire global economy, we should have been downgraded.

Every time a Fed governor like Neel Kashkari went on national television to declare that the Federal Reserve had “infinite money,” we should have been downgraded.

When Janet Yellen kept interest rates at 0% for years despite a roaring U.S. economy that was clearly no longer in need of unlimited stimulus, the country should have been downgraded.

And every time an analyst, famous investor, government official, or Fed member incorrectly claimed that inflation was transitory when it wasn’t, the country should have been downgraded.

No, it wasn’t just the backwards monetary policy we embraced to make ourselves feel better about our financial irresponsibility that should have led to downgrades; it was also the ongoing parade of public gaffes and humiliations by everyone associated with the Treasury Department and the Federal Reserve over the last two decades.

This put on full display to everyone in the world who was paying attention—apparently except the rating agencies—that we were on a treacherous path, destined to end in a catch-22.

I used to write often not just about the Biden administration’s fiscal irresponsibility, but also about the fact that they didn’t even pretend to care about financial responsibility.

The Biden administration never even talked about the idea of making cuts or balancing the budget—the bare minimum any administration can do. Simply talking about fiscal discipline is often enough politically; you don’t even have to deliver results. But the Biden administration couldn’t even manage that.

And then along comes the Trump administration, running on the idea of trying to rein in spending and taking on the Herculean task of, at least in some small way, addressing the nation’s out-of-control deficit. There’s been talk about recalibrating global trade. There have been attempts—however slow—to curb spending through DOGE’s effort. And there’s been a focus on getting the country’s financial house and deficit back in order for the first time in at least a decade.

Only now, as the torch passes to the administration which, at the very least, is at least talking about balancing the budget and taking some steps toward it—Moody’s shows up and casually downgrades the country’s credit rating. Here’s the timing of the downgrade on a chart, in a way that only Zero Hedge can do:

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Honestly, I don’t know whether to laugh at the fact that this didn’t happen a decade ago or at the fact that they waited until now—when balancing the budget is finally part of the national conversation—to do it. Either way, the downgrade is as hollow and performative as politicians jawboning about fiscal responsibility with no real intention of acting on it.

I’m not saying Moody’s was wrong, I’m saying it doesn’t matter. The U.S. has already set its course. One way or another, we’ll keep printing more money and relying on the dollar’s status as the global reserve currency to futilely prop up our standard of living.

There might be some adjustments in trade policy or spending, but our general trajectory was set after 2000, locked in after 2008, and supercharged by the unprecedented quantitative easing during COVID, when we simply papered over the entire economy with new cash, only to be befuddled by where excess inflation came from. Make no mistake: any time there’s financial instability going forward, the U.S. will print money first and ask questions later. And whatever Moody’s or any other rating agency has to say about it is irrelevant.

Long ago, we embarked on an unprecedented monetary policy experiment. And the outcomes will be just as unprecedented. That means neither you, nor I, nor the same rating agencies that were all but complicit in the subprime housing crisis, can predict how this ends.

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