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My goodness. I'm sure she truly believes that too.


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That is almost as good as Chief Justice Roberts declaring there are no political judges.


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It was odd hearing her discuss her tenure with DHS. Are you delusional? You were there for like six minutes.



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Far-Left NY Mag Slams Biden’s Ministry of Truth: ‘Disinformation’ a ‘Fantasy’ That Lets Liberals ‘Lie to Themselves’

https://slaynews.com/news/far-...ign=daily-newsletter

The far-left New York Magazine has slammed Democrat President Joe Biden for establishing the now-defunct “Disinformation Governance Board.”

NY Mag, an outlet rated as “far-left,” published an article Friday that blasted the “Ministry of Truth” and celebrated that it has been put on “pause.”

Author Sam Adler-Bell argues that the controversial board would have let liberals continue to “lie to themselves,” avoid “the agony of self-reflection” and only “exacerbate the populist revolt.”

Adler-Bell denounced recent claims from the Washington Post’s recent assessment that the censorship board was shut down due to a coordinated attack of “disinformation.”

The Post claims that the “attack” involved “far-right influencers” who “attempt to identify a target, present a narrative and then repeat mischaracterizations across social media and websites.”

Adler-Bell wasn’t so given to this dramatic reading of the situation, rather, he claimed it was a typical “activist endeavor.”

“The right’s campaign against the Disinformation Board resembled any other successful advocacy effort to halt a government initiative,” he wrote.

“When it comes to political messaging in our polarized age, par for the course.”

Having inoculated his readers from the thought that what the right did wasn’t a horrific propaganda campaign warranting arrest and punishment (former Disinfo Board executive director Nina Jankowicz claimed that conservative attacks on the board threatened “national security”), Adler-Bell then dinged liberals for their efforts to stop “disinformation” altogether.

The author admitted he sees the importance of “smart people” looking at how “the architecture of social media facilitates and incentivizes witch hunts and the dissemination of hateful, dishonest content,” but clarified, “I don’t think it requires any great leap of conspiratorial thinking to find fault with a disinformation board under the aegis of the DHS.”

“Government officials — whoever resides in the White House — are professional liars,” he declared, adding, “They lie haughtily in the interest of ‘national security,’ sheepishly in the interest of saving face, and passionately when their jobs are on the line.”

Adler-Bell also wondered, “Would Jankowicz’s office have been empowered to counter ‘disinformation’ coming from her own department? Or only from those criticizing it?”

He admitted the fear of having a Republican administration inevitably in charge of a board like that.

“And what would its remit have been under the next Republican presidency?” he asked, following that question with a statement from National Review writer, Nate Hochman.

“As one conservative writer put it, ‘It’s not clear to me that Democrats have fully reckoned with the non-negligible possibility that Donald Trump is in charge of the new Disinformation Governance Board in 2 years,’” he stated.

Adler-Bell continued, hitting liberals even harder: “But the other pernicious problem with liberals’ fixation on ‘disinformation’ is that it allows them to lie to themselves.”

The author said, “‘Disinformation’ was the liberal Establishment’s traumatic reaction to the psychic wound of 2016.

“It provided an answer that evaded the question altogether, protecting them from the agony of self-reflection.”

Essentially, it made it so that liberals didn’t have to address real issues.

The game of disinformation was about characterizing the Trump-voting part of the country as having “been duped, brainwashed by nefarious forces both foreign and domestic.

“And if only the best minds, the most credentialed experts, could be given new authority to regulate the flow of ‘fake news,’ the scales would fall from the eyes of the people.”

Adler-Bell illustrated the phenomenon, “Like other pathological reactions to trauma, the disinformation neurosis tended to re-create the conditions that produced the affliction in the first place.”

“By doubling down on elite technocracy — and condescension toward the uneducated rubes suffering from false consciousness — liberals have tended to exacerbate the sources of populist hostility,” he wrote.

The author then slammed a recent liberal disinformation conference headlined by Barack Obama at the University of Chicago.

“[G]athering the leading lights of liberalism to an auditorium at the University of Chicago — so that they together can decide which information is true and safe to be consumed by the rabble outside — strikes me as a hollow exercise in self-soothing,” Adler-Bell opined.

He claimed it was “more likely to aggravate the symptoms of our legitimacy crisis (distrust and cynicism) than resolve any of its impasses.”

Adler-Bell cited Harper’s Magazine author Joe Bernstein, writing, “the new class of disinformation experts, however well-intentioned, ‘don’t have special access to the fabric of reality.’”

He concluded his piece, claiming, “If faith in our institutions is to be restored, I don’t think it will be accomplished by stigmatizing doubt or obstructing the dissemination of falsehood.”


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Very interesting article.
 
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Originally posted by wcb6092:
...let liberals continue to “lie to themselves,” avoid “the agony of self-reflection” and only “exacerbate the populist revolt.”


A whole lot of goodness in that little package, smell the fear.




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Beautiful

You wanted to crap on the Constitution and hound Americans who don't toe the leftist line, and this is what you get. I hope to soon see you trying to act oh so cool in the hot seat.

TTFN!




Oh, and speaking of "disinformation"...

From page 3 of this thread



Ooooh, that didn't age well, did it Ninny, uhh Nina?
 
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Go for it. Set that precedent. And every conservative that has had their name dragged through the mud by any leftist media type can get their day in court and use your name as justification.


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https://www.breitbart.com/poli...-funds-sue-fox-news/

Nina Jankowicz, the short-lived disinformation czar for the Biden Department of Homeland Security, is soliciting funds for a lawsuit against Fox News for allegedly spreading “lies” about her.

Jankowicz posted a five-minute video to her Twitter account along with a GoFundMe page asking for money to sue Fox News. According to the GoFundMe page, she is seeking to raise $100,000. So far, she has raised over $10,000.

The creation of the board and Jankowicz’s appointment garnered fierce opposition from conservatives over the prospect of the government regulating Americans’ speech, leading to the pausing of the board and Jankowicz resigning. DHS dismantled the board in August 2022.

Jankowicz said in her video she now wants to sue Fox News for “malicious, reckless lies” about her. Her video plays clips, primarily from Fox News show hosts and pundits, criticizing her based on things she had posted to social media.

Jankowicz at one point pushed the narrative that the New York Post‘s reporting on abandoned Hunter Biden laptops that contained a trove of information about his business dealings was Russian disinformation.

She said the money raised would help her sue Fox News and support “other security and legal costs related to Fox News’ actions.” She said that includes hiring a lawyer after being subpoenaed by Rep. Jim Jordan (R-OH)’s Subcommittee on the Weaponization of the Federal Government.
 
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Jankowicz said in her video she now wants to sue Fox News for “malicious, reckless lies” about her. Her video plays clips, primarily from Fox News show hosts and pundits, criticizing her based on things she had posted to social media.

So she wants to file a lawsuit against Fox News for allegedly spreading “lies” about her because they played video clips the SHE posted on social media, outing her as the crazy-eyed wack job lunatic that she is...And of course, she wants others to fund this endeavor! Roll Eyes

This wreaks of the same flavor as those wanting to silence the Liberals of TicTok creator for re-posting videos that were again, outing crazed Leftists using videos that THEY THEMSELVES had posted on Twitter!


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Funny how 'Freedom of the Press' only works one way.

How DARE Fox news do what ABC, NBC, CBS, CNN, etc do, but against the left.... how DARE they!!!




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I know this pure fantasy, but when I see lawyers being willing to represent anyone for anything, I cannot but think of a criticism of Abraham Lincoln that I recently read in the book The Fiery Trial by Eric Foner. The author recounts Lincoln’s representation of a southerner who brought slaves to Illinois before the Civil War. According to Illinois law at the time a slave became free if brought into the state except for “transit.” When the slaves sued for their freedom and release, Lincoln argued in favor of the slave holder.

The author’s somewhat implied criticism was that although it’s a principle of American jurisprudence that everyone is entitled to legal representation in court, there is no right to compel any specific lawyer to take one’s case. He pointed out that Lincoln could have simply declined to take the case and argue for a position that was contrary to his earlier (and later) apparent attitudes about slavery in general.

As I say, it’s fantasy to even consider the possibility, not least because there can be legitimate disagreement about the merits of most cases, and I know most attorneys would disagree with me, but Imagine: Imagine if lawyers didn’t take cases unless they were at least convinced of the righteousness of doing so.




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This tool. You’d think there would be all kinds of lawyers lined up to go after FOX on contingency or even probono. But nobody wants a loser case so she’s begging for cash to hire a lawyer? Lol ok.
 
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I hope FOX counter sues her into poverty.





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House Judiciary Committee chairman Rep. Jim Jordan (R-OH) subpoenaed former Disinformation Governance Board chief Nina Jankowicz on Monday to testify before Congress next month.

Jordan said in a cover letter accompanying the subpoena, obtained by Breitbart News, that his committee was investigating the now-dissolved disinformation board, which was housed under the Department of Homeland Security (DHS) but terminated last August, months after its creation, amid intense Republican backlash.

Jordan wrote that his committee’s investigation includes “how the Board intended to define disinformation, how it planned to collect information and from what sources, how it anticipated countering disinformation, and how it proposed to protect First Amendment rights.”

Jordan cited letters he wrote on January 27, February 16, and March 1 to Jankowicz requesting that she provide certain documents and appear before the committee.

“To date, however, you have declined to comply voluntarily with our request for a transcribed interview,” he wrote.

Jordan’s request comes amid the Judiciary Committee’s newly formed Weaponization of the Federal Government Select Subcommittee conducting a wide-ranging probe into alleged civil liberties violations by executive branch agencies.

Jordan noted in the subpoena’s cover letter the subcommittee’s potential to come up with legislative reforms based on its findings over the next two years.

“These potential legislative reforms include the prohibition of such a federal ‘disinformation’ entity, restrictions on the executive branch’s authority to collect speech-related information about American citizens, or enhanced protections surrounding civil liberties,” he wrote.
 
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I'm sure Ninny err Nina is looking forward to it. She's picking out her show tunes right now.

"...and how it proposed to protect First Amendment rights.”

The answer, of course, is that if this fascist and her fascist buddies could do it, they would shred the Constitution.

Sleep well, Nina. It's gonna be a long month for you, thinking about how this will play out.


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Bumping this old thread for a bit of not-surprising news.

The ‘Mary Poppins of Disinformation’ Nina Jankowicz Takes Her Hate America Tour to Europe
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Unemployed censors now roam the Earth like rōnin. They are finding opportunities in Europe where free speech in a virtual free fall.

It was not surprising, therefore, that Nina Jankowicz, the former head of Biden’s infamous Disinformation Governance Board, appeared this week before the European Parliament. She called upon the 27 EU countries to fight against the United States, which she called a world threat.

How the “Mary Poppins of disinformation” came to alight upon the European Union is little surprise. Appealing before one of the most anti-free speech bodies in the world. The “New World Order with European Values” notably does not include robust protections for free speech.


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Sigfreund, I think that would become difficult for the profession.

Lawyers decline work, all the time, for all kinds of reasons, but part of the profession requires not carrying the weight for the client being an a-hole.

It was weird for me the first time I had to give someone the a-hole option. Didn’t like it. Didn’t think it was right. And I’m glad the client didn’t take it, but I had to point out it was a valid option.

But, to not have offered it, would have meant misleading the client.

Now, when it comes to not bringing frivolous cases - unless something’s changed, I think lawyers are still prohibited from that.
 
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Aglifter, sorry, but your response to a post by SigFreund from several years ago is confusing to me; but then I'm for sure not a lawyer.


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