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I do a lot of driving. I don’t wear long cover garments that often either. I’m looking at cross draw as a possible way to carry on some days.

Do any of yall have experience or thoughts?

I notice a lot leather manufacturers don’t offer cross draw models, leading me to believe it’s not that popular.





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Posts: 6997 | Location: Georgia | Registered: August 10, 2009Reply With QuoteReport This Post
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I know it's a slower draw than strong-side carry—except when you're seated. Then it'd probably be a damn sight faster Smile

I've been toying with the idea of acquiring an Andrews Carjacker for a few years. It's not really meant to be a general-purpose concealment holster. The idea is more you transfer your handgun from your strong-side holster to the Carjacker while you're in the car, then back again when you exit.

Since you don't wear long cover garments, have you considered a shoulder rig?



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Opinions vary, of course. Of concern to many is muzzle direction and trigger discipline.


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Cross-draw is definitely more accessible than 3:00-4:00 carry in the car. I considered it for that purpose for a while, but the problem comes when you get out of the car you're now either carrying in a sub-optimal position or dealing with a redundant holster, which is awkward.

I've taken to wearing a clip-on IWB on trips, and taking it off and stuffing it between the seat and the console while I'm driving. It's more comfortable and more accessible in that position. When I stop for gas and have to get out I slip the whole thing back on my belt under my shirt before I get out of the car.
 
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It does work better when driving. Trying to draw from 3:00 - 4:00 sucks. Complicate things and wear a jacket.

Unless you want to toss a holster between the drivers seat and center console where the gun is accessible. Then there’s the shoulder holster option, but you can’t tote it around only wearing a T-Shirt.

Here’s my only problem with cross draw:
Me- I was taught to keep the gun in the (roughly) same place. My Duty gear sets my pistol up at the 3:00, right in line with the seam on my pants. Off Duty- it’s 3:00 to 4:00 depending on the holster. In a “stressful” situation, that “oh shit” moment, you’re not searching for the gun.
For the last who knows how many years, I know automatically, that pistol is on my right hip.
Now all of a sudden, it’s not.

Don’t get me wrong, I’ve carried cross draw, shoulder, appendix and small of back (don’t do that! It hurts like a SOB, when you get tackled and land on your ass Wink ). Not saying anything is wrong with those, Im just conditioned to my right hip.


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Armpit carry, unless your in a state that Armpit Ban applies.

If so, just roll-on...




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Do you wear strong-side when NOT driving?
What's the more likely threat...being assaulted while outside of your vehicle when loading/unloading groceries, pumping gas or, while seated inside the vehicle?

Which ever method you go with, you'll need to practice and practice A LOT to build in the repetitive motion or, 'muscle memory' necessary for deadly encounters. Cross-draw while more comfortable in a seated position, is objectively slower but again that can be mitigated with LOTS of practice. Since vehicle encounters are usually start-off within close-quarters, you'll want to dial-in your draw-stroke and shooting from retention.
 
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Couldn't a strong-side holster be positioned for cross draw?
Strong-side IWB, butt of pistol is to the rear, rotate it around to 10-11:00 & it's butt to front, presenting well for a draw? Assuming RH shooter.

My P320 is in a 2-clip Vedder, which would likely be mighty uncomfortable at 10-11, but a slimmer holster could work for both?




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Couldn't a strong-side holster be positioned for cross draw?
Strong-side IWB, butt of pistol is to the rear, rotate it around to 10-11:00 & it's butt to front, presenting well for a draw? Assuming RH shooter.

My P320 is in a 2-clip Vedder, which would likely be mighty uncomfortable at 10-11, but a slimmer holster could work for both?


It would have to have a reversed cant.





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I know it's a slower draw than strong-side carry—except when you're seated. Then it'd probably be a damn sight faster Smile

I've been toying with the idea of acquiring an Andrews Carjacker for a few years. It's not really meant to be a general-purpose concealment holster. The idea is more you transfer your handgun from your strong-side holster to the Carjacker while you're in the car, then back again when you exit.

Since you don't wear long cover garments, have you considered a shoulder rig?

Re: “have you considered a shoulder rig?”

Yeah! And the pistol come out pointed at the carjacker. If you have a right-handed shoulder rig.



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I carry cross draw in the woods either hunting or camping (6" .357 or 5" .44 depending on probability of bear confrontation) with a belt knife on my strong side. Much easier to access while sitting, car or otherwise. For stictly vehicle consideration though, I'd probably go seat holster (between the knees or strong side)


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Couldn't a strong-side holster be positioned for cross draw?
Strong-side IWB, butt of pistol is to the rear, rotate it around to 10-11:00 & it's butt to front, presenting well for a draw? Assuming RH shooter.

My P320 is in a 2-clip Vedder, which would likely be mighty uncomfortable at 10-11, but a slimmer holster could work for both?


It would have to have a reversed cant.


Ah, good point, that rules the single holster option out




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I use a left handed holster and add a belt clip to the back at the desired angle.

Now it is carried inside the waist band for a right hand cross draw.


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I started out that way because my first defensive pistol was a G17 and at 3:30, the holster I had w/ my dress style, the grip printed pretty bad.
Cross-draw, the grip pulled in right against the side of my tummy. It was a non-adjustible zero cant Galco holster that worked fine that way.

Another thing I liked about cross draw was I could reach my gun a lot easier w/ my off hand if needed. Not sure I would ever need to but people practice shooting off hand for some reason or other.

But now I have a smaller sized gun and better holster so I'm back to 3:30 area.
 
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I have recently been using a Crossdraw Kydex rig from Revkel Holsters. I also like the old Bianchi Cyclone. Andrews Carjacker is excellent too.
FYI: The crossdraw position "presents" your gun in a way that makes it more susceptible to be being easily grabbed by someone facing you.


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I carry a Glock 30 cross draw in a Bianchi leather holster. It is much more comfortable when driving and easy to draw.
 
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I think one has to factor in a few things. I’d start with location & threat level. Where I normally go, the likelihood of someone coming to the vehicle at a light, stop sign, or ‘blocking’ maneuver is rather low. That’s the traditional ‘car-jacking’ scenario.

More likely would be an encounter once you are outside the vehicle. Then we can factor in the weather, always easier with a heavier coat on.

Yes, I have a few cross-draw holsters, though seldom use them. Some don’t conceal well when stepping out of the vehicle. The butt may stick out. With a jacket I’m more likely to use a pocket holster. If not that, maybe shoulder with a jacket or even a belly band.

I’ve come to the conclusion there’s no need to look for a perfect holster. I like having options for the varying conditions we find ourselves in.
 
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The only cross draw holster I ever use is a over the shoulder and around the torso rig where the button of my 10mm or 357 Mag sits right at my sternum. Its a very fast pull. Its used for hunting sidearms. I started using it because my belt holsters were banging into the deer stand hand rails and into my slung rifle. It would probably be a good driving setup in states that allow open carry.
 
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I tried many different ways to have a reasonably fast draw while in the drivers seat (right hand)
Having the holster on the right side,on my belt never worked out because of the seat belts covering the holster and gun.
I ordered a Fist shoulder holster(vertical) but found it to be a piece of junk.
I finally went with a belt holster for a left handed person. I'm proficient enough drawing and shooting with my weak hand so this set-up works for me.The holster and gun are easily accessible on my left side. If I have time I can easily transfer the gun to my right hand before firing.
 
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FYI: The crossdraw position "presents" your gun in a way that makes it more susceptible to be being easily grabbed by someone facing you.

Hi Yooper, maybe you can explain this. Why, if I have two guns on me, one cross draw and one at say, 4:00 position, why is it the one mostly behind me is the one that is easier to defend?

Where does this come from?
You're not the first I've heard this from. I'm just curious.

This is under the assumption they are both concealed.
 
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