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The document dump the FBI refused for months to release is here.




Luckily, I have enough willpower to control the driving ambition that rages within me.

When you had the votes, we did things your way. Now, we have the votes and you will be doing things our way. This lesson in political reality from Lyndon B. Johnson

"Some things are apparent. Where government moves in, community retreats, civil society disintegrates and our ability to control our own destiny atrophies. The result is: families under siege; war in the streets; unapologetic expropriation of property; the precipitous decline of the rule of law; the rapid rise of corruption; the loss of civility and the triumph of deceit. The result is a debased, debauched culture which finds moral depravity entertaining and virtue contemptible." - Justice Janice Rogers Brown
 
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woohoo

29 pages...some interesting reading maybe



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Thumbnail sketch/summary please?


Thanks,

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Thumbnail sketch/summary please?


The fix was in.

And they wanted the head of the guy who blew the cover on the Clinton-Lynch tarmac meeting.





Nice is overrated

"It's every freedom-loving individual's duty to lie to the government."
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lots of redactions, some smoke but not nearly enough to make a decision

but...

it sure raised a lot of eyebrows before they tried to spin it as no big deal

you can read it all in about 5 minutes



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The FBI is dirty on this whole thing


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of course they are

you can see how they were blindsided by the detail officer (whoever that was) but the first thing they thought about was covering their asses, and not the impropriety of the meeting or its implications

and this is just one partial email chain - almost as much redacted as there was left behind



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Posts: 53951 | Location: Tucson Arizona | Registered: January 16, 2002Reply With QuoteReport This Post
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Here is the explanation from the American Center for Law and Justice which along with Judicial Watch forced the FBI/DOJ to release what they did.

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We just received documents from the FBI bureaucracy showing that knowledge of the Clinton-Lynch tarmac meeting quickly reached the very top of the FBI, then-Director James Comey; the collusion between DOJ and FBI spin operatives goes further than previously thought; and the DOJ bureaucracy has now been caught lying, withholding key documents it sent to the FBI.

As you may recall, more than a year ago, the ACLJ issued requests for public records to both the Department of Justice (DOJ) and the FBI, under the federal Freedom of Information Act (FOIA), seeking documents concerning the June 27, 2016 tarmac meeting in Phoenix, Arizona, between former President Bill Clinton and then-Attorney General Loretta Lynch. The Obama DOJ failed to comply with FOIA, so we took them to federal court. The then-Comey-led FBI responded to our FOIA request and indicated that it had “[n]o records responsive to your request.”

As part of our litigation against the DOJ, we obtained more than 400 pages of responsive documents. Those DOJ documents confirmed that the FBI did, in fact, have responsive documents which it failed to produce to ACLJ. After we exposed the FBI’s lie, the bureaucratic bureau reopened our case, and informed us that “records potentially responsive to your request may exist.”

Nonetheless, and even after the FBI promised to search for responsive documents and respond appropriately, the FBI drug its feet and failed to produce any such documents in the timely manner required under FOIA. Thus, we were forced to file a lawsuit in federal court to obtain access to them.

Several weeks ago, in a federal court-ordered filing in our lawsuit, the FBI agreed to turn over those documents to us by November 30th.

We have just received those documents consisting of twenty-nine pages. While the documents provide little information about the meeting itself, or how it came to be, they do contain several important revelations.

First, an email under the subject line “Bill Clinton meeting?”, dated June 28, 2016 (just minutes after the DOJ spin team began taking action to respond to the media firestorm surrounding the Clinton-Lynch meeting), senior DOJ officials first informed the FBI of the DOJ’s attempts to “deal with this” situation. To be more precise, the AG’s office was communicating directly with FBI officials about the matter 8 minutes after DOJ received the first media inquiry about the clandestine meeting.

Importantly, this email should have been—but was not—included in the DOJ’s production of responsive documents on this topic.

This means that just like the FBI lied, the DOJ also withheld key documents about this meeting from us in clear violation of FOIA. This begs the obvious questions: was the DOJ intentionally hiding this information and, if so, why?

Today, we are back in federal court in our lawsuit against the DOJ to demand DOJ’s full compliance with FOIA and produce ALL documents.

Second, the FBI documents also reveal that then-FBI Director Comey was aware of and circulated to his senior staff (including FBI Chief of Staff and Senior Counselor to the Director Jim Rybicki, FBI Deputy Director Andrew McCabe, FBI Assistant Director of the Office of Public Affairs Michael Kortan, and FBI Associate Deputy Director David Bowdich) a news article regarding the Clinton-Lynch meeting under the cryptic subject line “FYI only.” The email, dated June 29, 2016 (two days after the meeting), contained no commentary – only a link to a Fox News article “http://nation.foxnews.com/2016/06/29/why-did-bill-clinton-and-loretta-lynch-meet-her-airplane-phoenix-week.”

Another email reveals that about 30 minutes later, Kortan sent Comey (and the other senior FBI officials on the first email chain) an email, under the subject line “From DOJ….,” forwarding the email DOJ sent the FBI to “FLAG” the story. That email chain provided the FBI early on with the (still redacted) talking points the Obama DOJ was using to spin this story in the media. This means that the DOJ’s spin on this went directly to Director Comey. In fact, it got to Director Comey within 3 minutes of DOJ official Melanie Newman first sending the talking points to the FBI. This story was a big deal.

Then, shortly after 6:00 a.m. on July 1st, FBI Deputy Director Andrew McCabe sent an email to Director Comey (along with his Chief of Staff Rybicki and Bowdich) which contained a New York Times article under the subject line “Lynch to Remove Herself From Decision Over Clinton Emails, Official Says - NYTimes.com.” That email was marked “Importance: High.” Later that day, Comey was also sent a transcript of AG Lynch’s interview where she attempted to explain away the meeting. This was the day BEFORE the FBI interviewed Hillary Clinton as part of the criminal investigation into her mishandling of classified emails.

Third, internal FBI communications make clear that far from being concerned about any impropriety of a meeting between Clinton and Lynch – at a time when not only was Hillary Clinton being investigated by the FBI based on her use of a personal email account and private server to handle classified State Department business but the Clinton Foundation itself had actually become involved in the investigation based on the Foundation’s dealings with the Clinton State Department – the agency was focused on the entirely unrelated issue of whether a member of the Attorney General’s security detail should be punished for publicly discussing details about the meeting.

Other documents in the production address press inquiries about additional details concerning the meeting, including whether FBI agents present on the tarmac during the meeting instructed onlookers that they were not permitted to take photographs at the scene. One such email includes an FBI employee expressing his “[d]oubt that [the FBI] would say anything” (presumably publicly) if those instructions had been given but noting that it would simply be “good to know.”

In short, rather than providing answers, let alone sufficient ones, these documents continue to raise serious questions about the details of the Clinton-Lynch tarmac meeting and the extent to which both the Department of Justice and the FBI bureaucracies have gone to bury the facts.

Like the DOJ documents, which we are back in court today about, the FBI documents are heavily redacted. We will continue to review these as well as our legal options to seek the expeditious removal of these superfluous redactions.

We will continue to seek the truth – including access to all relevant documents – as we pursue these matters in our respective lawsuits against the two agencies.

You can view the DOJ documents here and the new FBI documents here. We have also updated our full timeline breakdown of these documents – providing you a minute-by-minute analysis of the DOJ and FBI emails – here.




Luckily, I have enough willpower to control the driving ambition that rages within me.

When you had the votes, we did things your way. Now, we have the votes and you will be doing things our way. This lesson in political reality from Lyndon B. Johnson

"Some things are apparent. Where government moves in, community retreats, civil society disintegrates and our ability to control our own destiny atrophies. The result is: families under siege; war in the streets; unapologetic expropriation of property; the precipitous decline of the rule of law; the rapid rise of corruption; the loss of civility and the triumph of deceit. The result is a debased, debauched culture which finds moral depravity entertaining and virtue contemptible." - Justice Janice Rogers Brown
 
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The high temp in Phx on June 26 '16 was 106 deg, the low was 90.

Yeah, Bill played golf.


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Maybe not convicting, but it sure stinks to high heaven.

I don't trust anyone or any story coming out of DC.
 
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The high temp in Phx on June 26 '16 was 106 deg, the low was 90.

Yeah, Bill played golf.


I love how they try to play it off.

"Oh, we just bumped into each other at the airport - we just chatted on the plane about our kids and golf for an hour". Mmmkay... Roll Eyes

Instead it's an arranged meet that they want to keep secret.
 
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The ACLJ is getting to be a big player and more power to them.

Jay Sekulow, the head of ACLJ is Trump's Attorney.

ACLJ was started by Pat Robertson, TV Evangelist and former Presidential candidate.



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The ACLJ is getting to be a big player and more power to them.

Jay Sekulow, the head of ACLJ is Trump's Attorney.

ACLJ was started by Pat Robertson, TV Evangelist and former Presidential candidate.


How amazing would it be to see an Attorney General of the US Jay Sekulow?


 
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By the article, it seems Clinton just walked on to Lynch's plane. Where is the FBI security? Can anyone inside the security perimeter of Lynch's plane "just walk on" without being questioned about the intent to board the plane?

I believe this meeting was set up on the tarmac to keep recordings from being made.
 
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"Holy underwear! Gentlemen, this is an outrage! We must do something to protect our phoney-baloney jobs!"


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By the article, it seems Clinton just walked on to Lynch's plane. Where is the FBI security? Can anyone inside the security perimeter of Lynch's plane "just walk on" without being questioned about the intent to board the plane?

I believe this meeting was set up on the tarmac to keep recordings from being made.


That's a great point. Clinton being an ex-president, doesn't he have an SS bodyguard at all times? I don't know if those bodyguards can be compelled to testify as to what they may have heard.



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