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Yesterday at school, my daughter's car was flooded by rainwater here in the Houston area. The water came up to the bottom of the doors. There was about 2-3 inches of water in the floor (front and back seats). I was able to get it home, as it started and ran fine. I vacuumed out the standing water with the shop vac, soaked up all the rest that I could with towels, and opened the doors with box fans blowing across the interior.
My question is, how should I proceed? File an insurance claim and have the interior carpet replaced? I just want to make sure I'm covered, and protect ourselves against future problems. Several of her friends had much worse damage than we did.

Thanks for your help!


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File a claim. Flood cars always turn into nightmares. They may total loss the vehicle depending on how high the water got.
 
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File a claim. Flood cars always turn into nightmares. They may total loss the vehicle depending on how high the water got.


This. More than likely the car will be totaled.


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File a claim. Flood cars always turn into nightmares. They may total loss the vehicle depending on how high the water got.


This. More than likely the car will be totaled.


I agree. My son's 2006 Trail Blazer was totaled after a flood here in April 2014.

ETA: There was no water inside his car. Just high in engine compartment to get wiring, computer modules, etc. wet.

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Couple inches in the floor board? I wouldn't worry about it as long as you let it thoroughly dry



 
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Couple inches in the floor board? I wouldn't worry about it as long as you let it thoroughly dry


Bad advice.


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Pull out the seats and remove the carpet. Remove everything from the trunk.

Call the insurance company.
 
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Couple inches in the floor board? I wouldn't worry about it as long as you let it thoroughly dry

Bad advice.

Why, specifically?

A couple inches I would expect mainly got the carpeting wet. Probably less potential damage than having accidentally left all the windows open during a rainstorm. (Which happened to us with my wife's 2005 TrailBlazer. And it was a literal downpour.)

Serious question. Are cars today built so poorly that the carpeting getting a good soaking totals them?



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Originally posted by PowerSurge:
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Originally posted by BigSwede:
Couple inches in the floor board? I wouldn't worry about it as long as you let it thoroughly dry

Bad advice.

Why, specifically?

A couple inches I would expect mainly got the carpeting wet. Probably less potential damage than having accidentally left all the windows open during a rainstorm. (Which happened to us with my wife's 2005 TrailBlazer. And it was a literal downpour.)

Serious question. Are cars today built so poorly that the carpeting getting a good soaking totals them?


Cars today are loaded with electronics, that’s why. The car got more than a “good soaking”. There was “2-3 inches” of water in the car.

He should file a claim. Let the insurance company inspect the vehicle. If they decide not to total the vehicle, he has recourse if he has electrical problems with the vehicle down the road.


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Originally posted by PowerSurge:
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Originally posted by ensigmatic:
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Originally posted by PowerSurge:
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Originally posted by BigSwede:
Couple inches in the floor board? I wouldn't worry about it as long as you let it thoroughly dry

Bad advice.

Why, specifically?

A couple inches I would expect mainly got the carpeting wet. Probably less potential damage than having accidentally left all the windows open during a rainstorm. (Which happened to us with my wife's 2005 TrailBlazer. And it was a literal downpour.)

Serious question. Are cars today built so poorly that the carpeting getting a good soaking totals them?


Cars today are loaded with electronics, that’s why. The car got more than a “good soaking”. There was “2-3 inches” of water in the car.

He should file a claim. Let the insurance company inspect the vehicle. If they decide not to total the vehicle, he has recourse if he has electrical problems with the vehicle down the road.


Eh, was it salt water?



 
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Originally posted by ensigmatic:
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Originally posted by PowerSurge:
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Originally posted by BigSwede:
Couple inches in the floor board? I wouldn't worry about it as long as you let it thoroughly dry

Bad advice.

Why, specifically?

A couple inches I would expect mainly got the carpeting wet. Probably less potential damage than having accidentally left all the windows open during a rainstorm. (Which happened to us with my wife's 2005 TrailBlazer. And it was a literal downpour.)

Serious question. Are cars today built so poorly that the carpeting getting a good soaking totals them?


It’s not that there was a couple inches in the floorboards. If I read the OP correctly, the water didn't come in through the Windows as rainfall, it was flood water that got high enough to get into the floor boards. If that is the case, then water got high enough to get into the engine, transmisson, differentials, etc.
This water also probably had a high amount of sand/silt/whatnot in it. That stuff tends to get past seals and vents.
add to this that there are a lot of electronics pretty low on late model vehicles.
 
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Originally posted by BigSwede:
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Originally posted by PowerSurge:
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Originally posted by ensigmatic:
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Originally posted by PowerSurge:
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Originally posted by BigSwede:
Couple inches in the floor board? I wouldn't worry about it as long as you let it thoroughly dry

Bad advice.

Why, specifically?

A couple inches I would expect mainly got the carpeting wet. Probably less potential damage than having accidentally left all the windows open during a rainstorm. (Which happened to us with my wife's 2005 TrailBlazer. And it was a literal downpour.)

Serious question. Are cars today built so poorly that the carpeting getting a good soaking totals them?


Cars today are loaded with electronics, that’s why. The car got more than a “good soaking”. There was “2-3 inches” of water in the car.

He should file a claim. Let the insurance company inspect the vehicle. If they decide not to total the vehicle, he has recourse if he has electrical problems with the vehicle down the road.


Eh, was it salt water?


Eh, doesn’t matter. https://www.statefarm.com/simp...car-has-flood-damage


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Most vehicles have their Event Data Recorder (aka the black box) under the front drivers or passengers seat. Not to mention all of the other wiring and harnesses mounted and running down low. Not worth the risk to not file a claim.
 
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Cars today are loaded with electronics, that’s why. The car got more than a “good soaking”. There was “2-3 inches” of water in the car.

Good point. My Jeep Grand Cherokee has several "computer" modules in it, and ISTR a couple of them are under seats. Upon reflection: That seems like a poor design decision to me.



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Serious question. Are cars today built so poorly that the carpeting getting a good soaking totals them?

I'll take the other side of this and say the cars still have value. I bought a 4Runner out of Houston after Hurricane Harvey. I bought it from the insurance company after it was totaled.
It sounds like it was probably a similar amount of water to yours:

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The water came up to the bottom of the doors. There was about 2-3 inches of water in the floor


After a good carpet cleaning, I've got a great vehicle for about 5K, which is about a third of its' retail value. Of course the title will forever be marked "Prior Salvage" but I don't care. My daughter is driving it now.

I'm not suggesting that you should not file a claim... that's completely up to you. I would talk to your agent first, discuss the situation with him, and find out whether filing the claim will adversely affect your future insurance rates.



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Thanks everyone. I went ahead and filed a claim and they are supposed to call me to schedule an inspection. I'll keep you updated!


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Originally posted by PowerSurge:
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Originally posted by ensigmatic:
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Originally posted by PowerSurge:
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Originally posted by BigSwede:
Couple inches in the floor board? I wouldn't worry about it as long as you let it thoroughly dry

Bad advice.

Why, specifically?

A couple inches I would expect mainly got the carpeting wet. Probably less potential damage than having accidentally left all the windows open during a rainstorm. (Which happened to us with my wife's 2005 TrailBlazer. And it was a literal downpour.)

Serious question. Are cars today built so poorly that the carpeting getting a good soaking totals them?


Cars today are loaded with electronics, that’s why.



You would be surprised how many electronic items can be under the seats and in the center console. Airbag wiring alone would give me pause.
 
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All kinds of wiring and electronic components are on or near enough to the floor. Air bag modules, for example, are always on a solid part of the floor. They are not waterproofed. Should they be? Maybe, but cars cost enough already. The damage may not be apparent for several days, weeks or even months, the amount of time it takes the water to thoroughly seep in. You may not see anything right away, but it is only a matter of time before odd electrical issues - some of which can shut the engine down or prevent it from cranking/starting - start showing up.
 
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When I had a previous vehicle RX350 it went mid door deep in Isaac. It did not take in any water. A testament to the fit and finish of a Lexus. The insurance company payed to have all the fluids changed, engine and undercarriage steam cleaned and brakes redone


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The only advice here worth following is to contact the insurance company and have them evaluate the car. Unfortunately for you, it would have been much better if the insurance company had had the opportunity to evaluate the care prior to your attempt to clean it up. It may make it more difficult for them to adequately assess the damage that may have occurred.

And as someone who spends a lot of time on the CoPart Auto Auction site, the term 'flood car' covers an incredible broad spectrum of cars. Everything from cars that were completely submerged to those that have seen a minimal amount of water fall into this category. As chellim1 noted, 'some' flood cars present a terrific opportunity for rehab/renovation.


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