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Originally posted by OMCHamlin:
Hmmph. Lotta words for something we all know the answer to. No, it won't survive much longer, at the present course and speed...

That's downright depressing

I still believe we can survive as a nation united. The only problem with my vision is that a civil war may be needed.

I am willing to fight again for this country even though it screwed us last time.

The datasets of US voters correlated to many MANY other data sources will now give our enemies a powerful tool to divide and destroy us further.

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Originally posted by sjtill:
Wow, PD, your enthusiasm is infectious!

Big win in Georgia. I feel a little better.

A few thoughts from others more learned than I:

"If you look at great human civilizations, from the Roman Empire to the Soviet Union, you will see that most do not fail simply due to external threats but because of internal weakness, corruption, or a failure to manifest the values and ideals they espouse." - Cory Booker


“The five marks of the Roman decaying culture:

Concern with displaying affluence instead of building wealth;
Obsession with sex and perversions of sex;
Art becomes freakish and sensationalistic instead of creative and original;
Widening disparity between very rich and very poor;
Increased demand to live off the state.”

- Edward Gibbon


“All empires fall, eventually. But why? It’s not for lack of power. In fact, it seems to be the opposite. Their power lulls them into comfort. They become undisciplined. Those who had to earn power are replaced by those who have known nothing else. Who have no comprehension of the need to rise above base desires.” - Max Barry

Then again, there may be hope. Cullen Murphy noted that "The genius of America may be that it has built "the fall of Rome" into its very makeup: it is very consciously a constant work in progress, designed to accommodate and build on revolutionary change." The challenge we face, in my eyes anyway, is that to change and avoid ruin we must (1) agree, at least somewhat, on the direction in which we are to move, and (2) such change will necessarily involve a change in who holds power and how it is wielded. It's difficult to change a culture when so many people from both major parties are lining their pockets with maintaining the status quo.

A number of issues come to mind. One, all this "multi-culturalism BS. Anyone else notice the advertisements/instructions that come with stuff we buy?

Most of them have at least 4-5 different languages! You want to come and live here? Fine! Learn the damned language, which is American English!

How many TV channels are in other than American English?

But NO!!! We have to have multiple languages taught in our public schools to accommodate our "new residents". 12-13 years ago my daughter went to her son's high school to verify his claims that his math teacher could not speak English. Turns out the kid was right!!! Chinese woman teacher and her "English" was unintelligible! And that was at the county's so-called flagship high school.

Our gubbermint has been working to destroy our independence for decades, to turn us into yet one more 3rd world shit hole!

Is there an answer? Dunno, but when we have upwards of 40% of the population sucking off the gubbermint tit every month things are in really bad shape.

Add to that the virtual collapse of our education systems, at all levels, and we have major problems. Is it too late to restore our nation? Hope not, but I firmly believe that a divided America cannot survive.

[QUOTE]Originally posted by Elk Hunter: You want to come and live here? Fine! Learn the damned language, which is American English!/QUOTE]

IMO: Learning a common language to function in daily life was a significant portion of the "heat" that used to be under the melting pot.

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“The five marks of the Roman decaying culture:

Concern with displaying affluence instead of building wealth;
Obsession with sex and perversions of sex;
Art becomes freakish and sensationalistic instead of creative and original;
Widening disparity between very rich and very poor;
Increased demand to live off the state.”

- Edward Gibbon


“All empires fall, eventually. But why? It’s not for lack of power. In fact, it seems to be the opposite. Their power lulls them into comfort. They become undisciplined. Those who had to earn power are replaced by those who have known nothing else. Who have no comprehension of the need to rise above base desires.” - Max Barry

All of the above is true today.

The problem we have: Leftists believe that the Constitution is a flawed document, in that it 'limits' what the Federal Government can do, and does not proclaim what they believe the Federal Government should do!

And what it should do in their view is redistribute wealth, from the producers to the free shit army. Every Leftist policy ever proposed involves wealth redistribution via taxes!

I just don't understand the mindset that says: I'm fleeing from my country to a "better place" and now that I'm here - I want this place to become like the one I just left.

You left your country because something was badly wrong with it. Don't come here and try to turn the U.S. into Mexico or Whatever Islamic place you used to live in...

I have no problem with keeping a few traditions, but learn the language and accept our laws and traditions as well.

I have a coworker who has lived here for decades and still speaks with a really strong (sometimes not understandable) accent. He does so because he is the only one of his family who speaks english. He speaks english at work and then at home he and all his family members speak farsi/persian (don't know - he's from Iran). So, he's still completely immersed in his native tongue, food, tradition, to the point that 30 years of working in TN hasn't soaked into him at all....
His wife has lived here the whole time and still needs him to go with her to places that will require an interpreter.. She refuses to learn even rudimentary english. OR if she knows it - she's even worse, because she refused to use it.