I don’t freakin’ believe it! I’m ashamed that I ever attended a year there. What’s next, ban the Boy Scouts altogether too?

https://apnews.com/79dc2da81c644ef9bb97b844d88be1a5

Eh,

Hard to get worked up.

If you want to go do those things, you don't need access to a club on campus anymore. You can coordinate all that stuff outside of school, and get away from all of the school rules.

I'd like to say "un-freaking-believable" but in this day and age it's all TOO believable.

What a bunch of pantywaists.

All those Injuns and critters do make it risky

In early 2000 I was a boy scout leader and put together a campout for the 6 to 8 boys, me and another leader, to camp on my farm. I was called by the state rep and informed I had to have a parent for each boy.
That was crazy that I had to take 12-16 ppl ?
I cancelled it.

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Originally posted by Haveme1or2:
In early 2000 I was a boy scout leader and put together a campout for the 6 to 8 boys, me and another leader, to camp on my farm. I was called by the state rep and informed I had to have a parent for each boy.
That was crazy that I had to take 12-16 ppl ?
I cancelled it.

I recall maybe a rule for Cub Scouts.....but not for Boy Sout....only 2-deep coverage needed

quote:

Originally posted by Haveme1or2:
In early 2000 I was a boy scout leader and put together a campout for the 6 to 8 boys, me and another leader, to camp on my farm. I was called by the state rep and informed I had to have a parent for each boy.
That was crazy that I had to take 12-16 ppl ?
I cancelled it.

That's ridiculous. Currently the BSA requires two-deep leadership and at least one leader who has taken 8-hour BALOO training (just finished mine Saturday). I'm curious why your state rep felt the need to call on a campout on your property?

well, hey, there's no place to plug in our phone chargers anyway.

Was this for an actual Boy Scout Troop campout, or for a Cub Scout/Webelos activity?

Thanks in advance for the clarification.
Don

Edited to add: Oops, I see others have faster responses than I!

Something I read about this was interesting. Seems that the club costs for a trip for an individual is roughly 35 bucks a trip or so. And there's some sort of official school sponsored outing organization that charges $200 or more.

I was president of the skydiving club at my school for a couple years. They even let us do a couple demo jump days onto the campus. Probably pushed off campus everywhere by now.

Except for the service academies, of course. They had BIG programs. Air Force even had their own Twin Otter I think.

From Penn State's point of view, you can sort of understand it. They are afraid they'll get sued by some little darling's parents because the university should have made sure that junior wouldn't be stung by a wasp, or twisted his ankle while on an outing.

Which is a whole other kind of wrong.

While this dismays me greatly, I do understand the decision, if I disagree.

The world we live in (to say nothing of the world Penn State currently operates in, what with numerous scandals of late) is one where a kid was on a school study abroad and was bitten by a tick and later died of a rare encephalitis...and the school was sued claiming they should have known that this rare tick-borne illness was in this one place in China (or Japan, I forget). The school lost.

Having gone to a school trip risk management seminar earlier this year, the world is no longer conducive to doing anything but sitting in an air conditioned room to avoid lawsuits.

This Risk Assessment crap is about as dangerous as Political Correctness in my view.

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Originally posted by Oat_Action_Man:

Having gone to a school trip risk management seminar earlier this year, the world is no longer conducive to doing anything but sitting in an air conditioned room to avoid lawsuits.

But, doesn't Legionnaires' Disease travel through air conditioning systems??? (Sorry, I'm not serious in my post, I'm just pointing out another irony in the politically correct world, of which I can no longer handle)...

Maybe they saw the Blair Witch project, and figured why take a chance.

In the not too distant future, field trips and camp outs will likely be of the 3-D virtual reality sort. Or perhaps, in the interest of safety, virtual-virtual reality, where you really FEEL like you’re on a virtual reality field trip...

Kind of like this
https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=C6eRqMiAxQ0

The woosification of America enters a new phase

During my 4 years as an outing club member and officer at my New England liberal arts college we had trips that would make present day risk managers cringe. Of course we didn't have the safety net of cell phones then so we assumed the management of risk ourselves.

There has also been a couple of order of magnitude increase in the number of lawyers since then and they all need nice cars, houses and full plates at dinner.