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Originally posted by Skins2881:
Thank God. Last two flights, one dog shit himself, the other barked for four hours straight.

Neither of those are trained service animals. Real trained service animals are highly trained and will not bark unless instructed or shit themselves just from being on an airplane (well shouldn't anyways).

But I think trained service animals are so faked and over abused and it's ridiculous. If you can't get on an airplane for a few hours, don't go. I had a cat on one flight that not only shit, it meowed at the top of it's lungs, once every 30 seconds like clockwork.

There really needs to be a single, credible, service dog accreditation organization to clear up all this nonsense. A single set of accredited service dog credentials that is recognized universally will eliminate the fake credentials the shysters are selling online.

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Originally posted by HayesGreener:
There really needs to be a single, credible, service dog accreditation organization to clear up all this nonsense. A single set of accredited service dog credentials that is recognized universally will eliminate the fake credentials the shysters are selling online.

By some miracle, service dog training, ownership, and use is one tiny little area the government has somehow failed to load down with oppressive beaurocracy, regulation, and financial burden. I suspect many of the people who actually need service animals would prefer to keep it that way.

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Originally posted by maladat:
...I suspect many of the people who actually need service animals would prefer to keep it that way.

So would all the jerks gaming the system to take their animals for an airplane ride. How would you propose separating the two?

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Originally posted by HayesGreener:
There really needs to be a single, credible, service dog accreditation organization to clear up all this nonsense. A single set of accredited service dog credentials that is recognized universally will eliminate the fake credentials the shysters are selling online.

I was hoping that DOT would've gone this route.
If anything, certify X number of people who can sign-off on animals that are capable of flying; if the owner can fly then they're capable of traveling to the testing office. Getting a service animal or, emotional support animal shouldn't be burdensome however, a separate certification for allowing it to travel (airplane/bus/train/ferry) should be required. Make testing mandatory every 12-18 months. Work with the insurance companies to make sure certified animals only are allowed when it comes to liability plans.

I wonder how we got through the first hundred years or so without service animals on airplanes.
Veterans of WW2 and all sorts of other calamities flying in less safe eras somehow managed just fine.
If you're so whacked out that you can't fly without one, don't fly.

An endorsement on person’s drivers license would be good. Most people use their DL for ID when they fly

For example I had to show a DD214 to get Armed Forces on my DL.

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Originally posted by 12131:
About damn time.

The words. You took them from my mouth.

Although, I am disappointed I won't be able to take my sugar glider on my next flight.

No, I don't own one, but I thought it would be cool to get one and take it on an airplane and let it loose to "entertain" the fellow passengers.

This is sarcasm.

If you want to know just how slow the line at security can get, try standing down-line of the guy with his comfort Sloth...

if you're so emotionally fragile that you need an animal to help you cope - I don't want you on my airplane because when the shit hits the fan you're going to be a worthless obstacle to me getting off the plane with my life and your animal is an obstacle to everyone else (providing it survives)

but the airlines don't give a crap because all they see are pennies per seat mile filled - and they don't care with what

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Originally posted by Phelen_Kell:
Should apply to everywhere. Not just planes.

EXACTLY!

Last trip we went through Denver. There is no way anyone would convince me that all the animals I saw were certified, trained service animals. I believe there are legitimate service animals. Hipsters dressed to the nine's walking some little yap dog with a Service Animal tag? Not so much. Watching the "male" hipster don a plastic glove and hold his hand under the dog while it shit in his hand? Priceless.

Can I still fly with my emotional support exotic dancer?

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Originally posted by HayesGreener:
There really needs to be a single, credible, service dog accreditation organization

There is an on-going issue with this. The vast majority of real service dogs are owner trained in local classes. Based on experience, they do a good job.
There are companies that train and then sell service dogs. How much? “ you can expect to buy a service dog for between $15,000 and $30,000 upfront. Some service dogs can cost as much as $50,000.

My daughter’s service dog is a rescue. She trained him herself. He responds to her needs. OK, he also alerts me about my blood sugar.

The companies want accreditation, the standards set by them. That way they can sell more dogs. That way, owners that want to train their service dogs, won’t be able to.

What are causing the problems are untrained emotional support dogs and the scams that come with them. The are the fake services dogs. Pets that people bring into stores. The problem there are the managers that don’t know the law or are afraid of kicking the fakes out.

Personal note. I was at a medical center when a woman showed up with “Service dog in training, please pet” on its harness. That’s two major ADA violations. She approached me and got a loud “That not a service dog. It’s a pet. My daughter has a real service dog.” She quickly left as I went to complain. That’s what it takes to solve this.

https://www.nsarco.com/blog/se...og-buyers-guide.html

About damn time. Thank God. The animals all over everywhere they don’t belong is getting out of hand. Damn mastiff shitting in the aisle at Safeway, wearing an Amazon bought apron stating “service dog”. Owner didn’t pick up the loaf and left it there. I wanted to kick the woman in the ass fir letting her dog shit in the supermarket, and making some poor cart pushing kid deal with the steaming pile.

You aren’t blind and cannot survive without your animal... go see someone for help.

I guess I will be cooking my ostrich now.

About damn time.

I have a good friend who is a senior Captain with a major airline. He has told me about having "emotional support" ducks, turkeys, goats, etc., and the best was the Ocelot that got out of its crate and ended up panicked in the cockpit before they closed the door. I think he has decided to retire and I am sure this emotional support animal bull shit had helped him make that decision.

All for it, but I've yet to see these "service animals" in airports as much as people talk about. I fly 2-3 times a month and the most I've yet to encounter are a few dogs in Atlanta. I'm one of the first on a plane and have yet to see a dog or other animal board after me.

I fly Delta 99% of the time, is this something that is more common on the budget airlines?

Well of all the nerve! How will Freddy and I get back home from our extended world tour to the USA if American Airlines refuse us service!!!



Yep there will be wailing and gnashing of teeth over this one for sure.