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US Claims Genocide in Sudan

The US government yesterday officially accused a Sudanese paramilitary group and its proxies of committing genocide in a 20-month-long brutal civil war against the North African country's military.

The declaration marks the most decisive stance the US has taken in the war between the forces of two formerly allied generals—Rapid Support Forces leader Mohamed Hamdan Dagalo and Sudanese army chief Abdel Fattah al-Burhan. The conflict (see background) has killed an estimated 150,000 people and displaced more than 11 million people—about one-fifth of the country’s population. The US has declared genocide only six other times since the end of the Cold War in 1989.

US Secretary of State Antony Blinken said yesterday the RSF—a group with roots in the infamous Janjaweed militias—committed systematic executions of men and boys and sexual violence against women and girls based on ethnicity. In response, the US Treasury Department has imposed sanctions on Dagalo and seven United Arab Emirates companies supporting the militia.
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Africa's version of the south side of Chicago?


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Business as usual in Africa. I’ll take brutal African dictator of the week for $100 Alex. Lots of military associates of mine have done deployments to Africa, one close friend multiple times. He will flat out state the entire continent with possibly a couple countries excepted is a lost cause
 
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...He will flat out state the entire continent with possibly a couple countries excepted is a lost cause

An uncle was a missionary in Africa 50 years ago and told me the same thing. Don't know why anyone would bother with the continent.


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Africa? Gimme a break.

Two scenarios -

Number 1.

73 years ago I started school here in England, and every kid in the class brought a sixpenny piece to put in the jar for poor kids in Africa who -

1. had to walk ten miles each way with a bucket of water,

2. had to crap in a hole in the ground,

3. had to live falling-down mud huts and

3. had numerous loathsome health problems, like cleft palates, blindness, dengue, lassa fever, blight of the tripes et al.

Fast forward to 2025, and our great grandkids are taking a nice shiny pound coin every week to put in that same freakin' jar for exactly the same reasons, but for the great-great-grandkids of the first bunch.

Number 2.

A few years back I was involved in an organisation that had an overlook on what was going on in the Horn of Africa - Somalia, Mogadishu, Mali - that kind of place. The WHO and UNICEF had gotten together, and collected a hundred brand-new Mercedes-Benz trucks, and loaded them with food - rice and flour and cooking oil - that kind of thing. we saw them being offloaded in Mogadishu, and standing on the quayside, all nice and shiny and white and loaded with comestibles.

The next day there were five of six still there, burned out wrecks. The rest had gone - somewhere. In the local markets all the donated food was on sale in the original bags to those who could afford to buy it - that's around a thousand short tons of the stuff.

I've never given a bean to Africa since.
 
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Although comical, it is not at all inaccurate.

 
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Don't know why anyone would bother with the continent.
3 words - vast natural resources. Diamonds, precious metals, oil, gas, etc.



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China is getting their asses kicked there now.


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45k dead Hamas members is a good start.


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3 words - vast natural resources.




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Africa? Gimme a break.

Two scenarios -

Number 1.

73 years ago I started school here in England, and every kid in the class brought a sixpenny piece to put in the jar for poor kids in Africa who -

1. had to walk ten miles each way with a bucket of water,

2. had to crap in a hole in the ground,

3. had to live falling-down mud huts and

3. had numerous loathsome health problems, like cleft palates, blindness, dengue, lassa fever, blight of the tripes et al.

Fast forward to 2025, and our great grandkids are taking a nice shiny pound coin every week to put in that same freakin' jar for exactly the same reasons, but for the great-great-grandkids of the first bunch.

Number 2.

A few years back I was involved in an organisation that had an overlook on what was going on in the Horn of Africa - Somalia, Mogadishu, Mali - that kind of place. The WHO and UNICEF had gotten together, and collected a hundred brand-new Mercedes-Benz trucks, and loaded them with food - rice and flour and cooking oil - that kind of thing. we saw them being offloaded in Mogadishu, and standing on the quayside, all nice and shiny and white and loaded with comestibles.

The next day there were five of six still there, burned out wrecks. The rest had gone - somewhere. In the local markets all the donated food was on sale in the original bags to those who could afford to buy it - that's around a thousand short tons of the stuff.

I've never given a bean to Africa since.
Neither example follows the teach a man to fish philosophy and therefore were doomed to fail.

I was in Rwanda in '05 with my church. On the first night in country, the head of the NGO we were collaborating with started out his talk with holding his hand out with an open palm. He proclaimed that asking for handouts was Africa's biggest problem. I saw with my own eyes a few programs that actually work, and none of them involved handouts.
  • Microfinance - villages are given a progressive series of milestone loans, individuals start businesses, the NGO provides training for the business, and the NGO manages the loan process. What made this different was everyone in the village had to payback loan for the village to get the next larger milestone loan which meant they banded together and helped each other (i.e. fostering community). Corruption is pretty bad in Africa so all of the individual loan paybacks were made in public in the center of the village for all to see. In Ruhengeri, I was able to see microfinance loan payback day, one of the businesses, and selling of goods in the market.
  • Can't remember the formal name, but it involved high grading existing agriculture. For example, the Rwandan farmers were growing C grade coffee that didn't have much international demand which meant there was very little money in growing it. The NGO worked with government and academia to find an A high grade coffee that would grow in their climate/soil. A few years after my trip, I began to see Rwandan coffee on the shelves in the US.



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    Originally posted by egregore:
    Although comical, it is not at all inaccurate.

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    The Africans are killing each other?
    Imagine that! Roll Eyes


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    In 1977, I spent two weeks in Khartoum working for Page Communications. We put an IMTS system in the Presidents Palace.

    The company had also put in a TV station and Sector HF links. The problem was the buzzards setting on the antenna elements and bending them down due to the weight of the bird.

    They were fighting rebels on the eastern border. It was like traveling back a 1000 years in time. They were plowing the fields with oxen and bathing in muddy ponds.


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    Slight thread drift. I heard the same sort of reasoning excuse in Catholic grade school, but ours was for the “missionaries in China”. This was in the late 1950s and early 1960s.

    No one asked where or how this money would get to the “missionaries in COMMUNIST China”, as you just didn’t challenge Sister Mary Holy Water while she held her 12-inch wooden ruler above your writing hand.

    If it wasn’t for Europeans bringing civilization to Africans, they would still be killing each other over tribal grievances. Oh wait, they still are, even after the Europeans left in the 1960s.

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    Give Jean Hatzfeld's "Machete Season" a read. It's about the Rwandan Genocide and is a real eye opener to what happens boots on the ground in these type of things.




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