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^^^ Yeah, what Hildur said.
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What InBev and all the other woke companies don't understand is that pandering to these minority demographics while ostracizing their loyal, regular consumers is not an effective way to grow their business.



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Bud Light is not cheap beer. It's low quality, tastes horrible, but it's expensive. I never saw anyone in college drink it. We drank Beast and Natty Light. Hell, I could get all the free AB products I wanted through a sponsorship of my band with the local AB distributor and I never ever opted for Bud, other than Bud Ice, which had just come out. When we played gigs they booked for us, I was free to drink whatever I wanted as long as it was in a Budweiser cup. And I never ever ordered Bud for that. I must be out of touch, as I just don't know who buys that overpriced piss beer.
 
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Originally posted by Hildur:
Business 101: Work hard to get a customer and then twice as hard to keep them. Why?
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-Acquiring a new customer can cost five times more than retaining an existing customer.

-Increasing customer retention by 5% can increase profits from 25-95%.

-The success rate of selling to a customer you already have is 60-70%, while the success rate of selling to a new customer is 5-20%.

-One customer experience agency found loyal customers are 5x as likely to repurchase, 5x as likely to forgive, 4x as likely to refer, and 7x as likely to try a new offering.

-U.S. companies lose $136.8 billion per year due to avoidable consumer switching. [and I hope they lose TWICE that!!!]

-American Express found 33% of customers will consider switching companies after just one instance of poor customer service.
BAM!!! This right here. I hope AB/Bud Light are cutting their nose off to spite their own damned face!!

Good stuff, Hildur!



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I don't like the swill. But funny to me, my son just switched from Bud Lite to Miller Lite as a result of this woke nonsense.



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I don't drink beer but I'm definitely swearing off trannies.
 
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I don't drink beer but I'm definitely swearing off trannies.
Because Bud Light's their beer, now?



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What InBev and all the other woke companies don't understand is that pandering to these minority demographics while ostracizing their loyal, regular consumers is not an effective way to grow their business. Customer retention drops and whatever customer acquisition they receive for making such a drastic move doesn't make up for it. Furthermore, there's no loyalty among the acquisitions and they are exceedingly likely to return to their prior beer of choice. Key word: CHOICE. Bud Light is not known for its great taste. It's a cheap beer that HAD great marketing. Will the virtue signalers buy Bud Light to show their support? Iffy at best. Will they keep drinking it for years to come? I highly doubt it. I drank Bud Light/Select exclusively throughout my early 20s and when I could afford better, I moved on.

Business 101: Work hard to get a customer and then twice as hard to keep them. Why?


quote:

-Acquiring a new customer can cost five times more than retaining an existing customer.

-Increasing customer retention by 5% can increase profits from 25-95%.

-The success rate of selling to a customer you already have is 60-70%, while the success rate of selling to a new customer is 5-20%.

-One customer experience agency found loyal customers are 5x as likely to repurchase, 5x as likely to forgive, 4x as likely to refer, and 7x as likely to try a new offering.

-U.S. companies lose $136.8 billion per year due to avoidable consumer switching.

-American Express found 33% of customers will consider switching companies after just one instance of poor customer service.



They know this, Bud/InBev is loaded with MBA's, high level educated marketing people, have contracts with tons of top level advertising firms.

But along with the cost of losing customers over this, the increase in CEI and ESG scores keeps Blackrock pumping the stock and gives InBev better numbers for the EU ESG factors.

Right now Governments and Big Finance are driving this phenomenon, my guess is they feel that in order to gain a share of the large youth market back to Bud they need to go hardcore inclusivity and diversity which is the big buzz for that market,

If companies don't have rainbows and Unicorns in their marketing plans and gender neutral in your corporate governance you won't be here as the youth market evaporates from a low ESG/CEI score.
 
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Babylon Bee

https://babylonbee.com/news/pe...boycott-of-bud-light

U.S. — As conservatives across the nation vowed to no longer drink Budweiser products, people who possess functional taste buds have promised to continue their decades-long boycott of Bud Light as well.

"No way I'm ever drinking Bud Light," said local man Jimmy Billings. "Wait, there's a boycott?"

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They know this, Bud/InBev is loaded with MBA's, high level educated marketing people, have contracts with tons of top level advertising firms.

But along with the cost of losing customers over this, the increase in CEI and ESG scores keeps Blackrock pumping the stock and gives InBev better numbers for the EU ESG factors.

Right now Governments and Big Finance are driving this phenomenon, my guess is they feel that in order to gain a share of the large youth market back to Bud they need to go hardcore inclusivity and diversity which is the big buzz for that market,

If companies don't have rainbows and Unicorns in their marketing plans and gender neutral in your corporate governance you won't be here as the youth market evaporates from a low ESG/CEI score.



ESG/CEI is a whole different layer. If they want to play stupid games to pump their stock value and "score" points with the Gen Z idiots, so be it. From a business fundamental perspective they're shooting themselves in the dick. Bottom line: AB is going to lose loyal customers and revenue will drop because none of the newly acquired "woke" customers are going to become lifelong BL drinkers like the ones they lost. Who cares about being "woke" or having a higher stock price if the very lifeblood of any business is decreasing. Food and beverage isn't bulletproof the way Amazon and Walmart are. Kings get overthrown all the time and IMO Bud Light / AB vastly overestimates their foothold in the market. All it takes are a couple stupid moves like this one and they'll be wishing they kept selling to frat boys.
 
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This BEE funny.


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Yeah Bud Light has always been dog piss. No way in Hell they convince the fruitcake, skinny jean, man bun, autumn/pear/pumpkin spice ale crowd to drink that crap. Not even with their woke BS.


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The AB rep in charge of “connecting” with new demographics has a thinly veiled disgust for the past marking campaigns, which were quite popular and generally well received by the public at large.

This lame, uncreative, and lazy “hate marketing/rage harvesting” form of woke corporate advertising cannot be sustainable. From a company with an established creative and fun loving advertising history they really set the bar low here.

When your outreach to new customers also makes many of your existing customers hate you I’d say they was probably a better move to be made.

The whole thing is quite amusing to me as I’ve never been a big fan of the beer and when I think about my friends who regularly drink the stuff they couldn’t have been more off the mark.

Others have made the point that woke neo-Marxist corporate banking cartels are pushing divisive woke foolishness as a hurdle to secure loans etc. That is an interesting angle to consider.


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The AB rep in charge of “connecting” with new demographics has a thinly veiled disgust for the past marking campaigns, which were quite popular and generally well received by the public at large.

This lame, uncreative, and lazy “hate marketing/rage harvesting” form of woke corporate advertising cannot be sustainable. From a company with an established creative and fun loving advertising history they really set the bar low here.

When your outreach to new customers also makes many of your existing customers hate you I’d say they was probably a better move to be made.

Beer companies have been involved with all manor of events, Bud Light has been one of the sponsors of the Dinah Shore Club Skirts Weekend....better known as Lesbian Spring Break check the pics. I'm sure Key West and Provincetown on Cape Cod has no shortage of Bud Light banners during their big gay events. The big difference is they're now including 'alternative lifestyles' into their general marketing campaign with this move. Marketing types are always looking for the next best thing and seeking new customers...we'll see how this goes. I really hate the personalty types that are involved with marketing/PR/branding
 
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Originally posted by HRK:



They know this, Bud/InBev is loaded with MBA's, high level educated marketing people, have contracts with tons of top level advertising firms.

But along with the cost of losing customers over this, the increase in CEI and ESG scores keeps Blackrock pumping the stock and gives InBev better numbers for the EU ESG factors.

Right now Governments and Big Finance are driving this phenomenon, my guess is they feel that in order to gain a share of the large youth market back to Bud they need to go hardcore inclusivity and diversity which is the big buzz for that market,

If companies don't have rainbows and Unicorns in their marketing plans and gender neutral in your corporate governance you won't be here as the youth market evaporates from a low ESG/CEI score.



ESG/CEI is a whole different layer. If they want to play stupid games to pump their stock value and "score" points with the Gen Z idiots, so be it. From a business fundamental perspective they're shooting themselves in the dick. Bottom line: AB is going to lose loyal customers and revenue will drop because none of the newly acquired "woke" customers are going to become lifelong BL drinkers like the ones they lost. Who cares about being "woke" or having a higher stock price if the very lifeblood of any business is decreasing. Food and beverage isn't bulletproof the way Amazon and Walmart are. Kings get overthrown all the time and IMO Bud Light / AB vastly overestimates their foothold in the market. All it takes are a couple stupid moves like this one and they'll be wishing they kept selling to frat boys.
If the article posted by Chellim1 is accurate, InBev has a serious management issue in the base. Zero fortune 500 companies should have so little talent that they hire a recent MBA grad off the streets to be a VP.
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Mrs. Heinerscheid graduated from the Wharton School of Business (University of Pennsylvania 2012/2013), around the same time as Ivanka Trump. She interned with General Mills (Cheerios brand), before ultimately landing the job with Anheuser Busch as VP of Marketing for Bud Light.
I've worked at a large, multinational corporation for 27 years with scores of people who graduated with MBAs from the Top 10 MBA programs.

You know what my employer calls a recent MBA graduate from Wharton? An analyst. Large multinational corporations who've been around for decades have been hiring from Top 10 programs for decades, and VPs either rise up through the ranks or we poach executives with proven track records form other large, multinational corporations.



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Tatortodd, it’s 2023 - she finished her MBA 10 years ago, and from Harvard in 2006.

That makes her right around 40, which is somewhat normal for a VP. I’m not defending her at all, but her career trajectory is fairly normal for a top MBA. You are an “analyst” in some post-MBA roles, but that’s normally a 18-24 month stint before they start moving you up.
 
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We're both making assumptions:
  • I clearly stated mine when I wrote, "If the article posted by Chellim1 is accurate." I assume the sentence "ultimately landing the job" means straight from Wharton to VP. Everything I wrote is based on that which would mean she'd been VP for 10 years.
  • You're assuming the sentence "ultimately landing the job" means that she had a series of roles before being VP. Everything you wrote is based on that.

    BTW, thanks for not giving me the benefit of the doubt in knowing what year it is and not being able to subtract 2023 from 2013 Roll Eyes



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    Say, how about yer Lowenbrau? Is that good beer? What about Schlitz and Old Milwaukee?

    How does Pabst Blue Ribbon compare to Budweiser? Razz

    No, really, I haven't a clue about such things.

    Here's to good friends, tonight is kinda special...
     
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    I continue to shake my head about this kind of "graduate" our corrupt ineffective education system produces these days. If AOC wasn't bad enough, this excuse for a marketing wizzkid ought to give everyone migraines at a minimum.



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