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Sigforumites could band together to become activist/nuisance investors in Blackrock. We could model ourselves after Engine No. 1 that resulted in ExxonMobil adding 2 board members to their board of directors. They were able to write a shareholder initiative and get it up for vote at the annual meeting, and leading up to the annual meeting they had a pretty savvy media campaign (e.g. near as I can tell never stated how many shares they owned).

We could call ourselves Engine P210. Blackrock trades for about $800 so for 10 shares we'd need to pool $8k. We'd need a Sigforumite:
  • attorney to help legally formalize the group.
  • with media experience to help craft a strategy to get our message on conservative media
  • with experience writing shareholder initiatives
  • with website design experience to create a website explaining our shareholder initiative to kill off ESG at Blackrock
  • spokesperson to be the face of the group for the media


  • I would absolutely support this and kick in some money. I’m serious as a heart attack and ready to do something to fight the climate change hoax in particular, and ESG in general. Do you really think that we could make this work?




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    ^^^^^^^^

    Sorry, erj_pilot, nine posts above you, beat you by 2 hours.
    Isn't that one of Para's pet peeves??? Not perusing the thread before posting?? Think I've read that recently. Just checking.....

    (Hopefully it's obvious that isn't meant for you, oddball.)



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    Originally posted by tatortodd:
    Sigforumites could band together to become activist/nuisance investors in Blackrock. We could model ourselves after Engine No. 1 that resulted in ExxonMobil adding 2 board members to their board of directors. They were able to write a shareholder initiative and get it up for vote at the annual meeting, and leading up to the annual meeting they had a pretty savvy media campaign (e.g. near as I can tell never stated how many shares they owned).

    We could call ourselves Engine P210. Blackrock trades for about $800 so for 10 shares we'd need to pool $8k. We'd need a Sigforumite:
  • attorney to help legally formalize the group.
  • with media experience to help craft a strategy to get our message on conservative media
  • with experience writing shareholder initiatives
  • with website design experience to create a website explaining our shareholder initiative to kill off ESG at Blackrock
  • spokesperson to be the face of the group for the media


  • I would absolutely support this and kick in some money. I’m serious as a heart attack and ready to do something to fight the climate change hoax in particular, and ESG in general. Do you really think that we could make this work?
    Yes, but it'd be an uphill battle.

    The key is the initial media publicity needs to land an entity with deep pockets. Engine No 1 landed 2 large pension funds and 3 Wall Street firms. That shifted the narrative from who Engine No 1 was to how many proxy votes they had.



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    While Blackerock was instrumental in crafting the ESG guidelines and framework, ESG scoring is a Department of Labor ruling as it relates to defined benefit plans (pensions). This rule was crafted by Biden’s DOL and pertains to pensions as it is the only place that DOL has control over. As someone mentioned before, ExxonMobil added a couple of environmental activists to their board to get the score needed to stay in the institutional pension space. I truly suspect AB InBev leadership was jockeying their score around when they hired that guy pretending to be a girl a few years ago. Blackrock is responsible for making this whole thing happen and I hope a day comes when they are punished for it.


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    Originally posted by dking271:
    As someone mentioned before, ExxonMobil added a couple of environmental activists to their board to get the score needed to stay in the institutional pension space.
    Not quite. ExxonMobil didn't voluntarily add board members to get a ESG score. Engine No 1 created a shareholder initiative and shareholders forced ExxonMobil board change. That's why I proposed Engine P210 to force change at Blackrock.

    AB InBev was a different case where they were voluntarily monkeying around to get an ESG score



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