https://thehill.com/policy/hea...ing-bars-restaurants


Hasn't happened yet and I hope it won't.
I get why he wants to do it. Flatten the curve of exposure but it would send Ohio spiraling down into who knows what.
There's panic already as in most states. This would push most everyone over the edge.
It would also probably ruin me as I make people's food here in N.E. Ohio. I would have to lay off 40+ employees indefinitely.
There's no sporting events, no concerts and the casinos are shut down around me also. Including MGM in Cleveland.
Schools are shut down now and hoarding has already happened.
Companies like US Foods and Sysco, who I sell to, would likely close as most of their business is restaurants. Truck drivers, warehouse personnel all the way up would be done.
Owners of the bars/restaurants would be done also. Dishwasher up to manager gone.
I have contacted the governor of Ohio and my state representative and those of you who live in Ohio should do the same.
I think it's a very bad idea and could plunge Ohio into pure chaos.

This would be devastating to a Lot of small restaurants. And a lot would never recover and close.

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I get why he wants to do it. Flatten the curve of exposure but it would send Ohio spiraling down into who knows what.
There's panic already as in most states. This would push most everyone over the edge.
It would also probably ruin me as I make people's food here in N.E. Ohio. I would have to lay off 40+ employees indefinitely.

I understand the anxiety and I feel for you.
However, I wonder if we really need a separate thread for every state affected by this virus?

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Originally posted by chellim1:

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I get why he wants to do it. Flatten the curve of exposure but it would send Ohio spiraling down into who knows what.
There's panic already as in most states. This would push most everyone over the edge.
It would also probably ruin me as I make people's food here in N.E. Ohio. I would have to lay off 40+ employees indefinitely.

I understand the anxiety and I feel for you.
However, I wonder if we really need a separate thread for every state affected by this virus?

Thank you.
My goal with this post is also to let any Ohio members know on this board what is going on. They may want to contact the governor and the representative too like I have done.
I know there is panic in most every state and that doesn't need a thread by every person and you're absolutely correct about that.

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My goal with this post is also to let any Ohio members know on this board what is going on. They may want to contact the governor and the representative too like I have done.

OK. I understand.
Other states are doing similar things and will also be impacted likewise. It's a tough call between voluntary "social distancing" and mandatory closings.

My wife works for AVI Foodsystems, runs a Starbucks in the Diebold building. Most of the employees are working from home so it’s dead already with the risk of being told to stay home as it is.

I’m a sales rep and just found out Friday that we are no longer making face-to-face calls for the foreseeable future.

It's a done deal. The Governor closed all bars and restaurants as of 9PM tonight. Takeout and delivery still allowed.

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It's a done deal. The Governor closed all bars and restaurants as of 9PM tonight. Takeout and delivery still allowed.

And drive thru I believe, which is very significant.

We just saw that too. Crazy. We’re going out to eat and I’m gonna take a bunch of cash and give our server a big tip. I feel awful for the folks who won’t be able to work but need the money.

Well, they are also allowing immediate unemployment filings for those laid off due to the orders. Of course, that will be paid for by raising the unemployment taxes on all the businesses in the state, so we are going to hit all the businesses for it anyway. It’s going to be a mess.

- Bret

This is not good. Where Are the adults...

The libs are saying DeWine is a saint and this should have done this weeks ago.

I just spoke to a guy that's company is a franchisee of several franchised operations, think Pizza Huts and the like. He said all their OH restaurants close tonight at 9 and can't reopen until ???. Said they can still do carry-out and drive through but none in store.

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I’m a sales rep and just found out Friday that we are no longer making face-to-face calls for the foreseeable future.

Same, I work remotely already so, no change, perhaps they'll be a drop-off in email volume Sales meeting will probably be held on Zoom.

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The libs are saying DeWine is a saint and this should have done this weeks ago.

Once again the libs fail basic civics in comprehending that the US is a decentralized govt, where day-to-day decision making is made at the state/county/muni-level, not to mention private industry is much more agile to respond to such catastrophes. If people want to lay blame, besides the Chinese CCP first and foremost, it's the lack of preparedness of the local areas and the holes in their plans.

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Originally posted by ChicagoSigMan:

It's a done deal. The Governor closed all bars and restaurants as of 9PM tonight.

Which governor? What state?

This thread is re Ohio, but I believe that you are here in Florida, thus the confusion on my part.

Slight thread drift westward:

https://qctimes.com/news/local...source=home-breaking

Update: Illinois governor orders bars and restaurants to close temporarily starting Monday night

ASSOCIATED PRESS 1 hr ago

The governor of Illinois on Sunday ordered all bars and restaurants in his state to close amid the threat of the new coronavirus, and officials elsewhere in the country said they were considering similar restrictions after revelers ignored warnings against attending large gatherings.

"The time for persuasion and public appeals is over,” Gov. J.B. Pritzker said. “This is not a joke. No one is immune to this.”

The Democratic governor said he had tried earlier this week to appeal to everyone’s good judgment to stay home, to avoid bars, and not congregate in crowds. He added that it is unfortunate that many people didn’t take that seriously.

The order takes effect Monday night and will last through March 30.

(from Sigmund: Remainder of the artile is about other states)

In New Orleans and Chicago, people clad in green for St. Patrick's Day packed bars and spilled onto crowded sidewalks on Saturday even after the cities canceled their parades.

“I’m not about to put my life on hold because this is going around,” Kyle Thomas told the Chicago Sun-Times. Thomas, a nurse from Colorado, said he had flown to Chicago to celebrate St. Patrick's Day with friends and thought people might be ”overreacting."

In New Orleans, Syd Knight, 86, celebrated despite the public health warnings and the higher risk she faced because of her age.

“The Lord will take care of us all,” Knight told The Times-Picayune-New Orleans Advocate.

Oklahoma's governor tweeted a picture of himself and his children at a crowded metro restaurant Saturday night.

In the since-deleted tweet, Republican Gov. Kevin Stitt wrote: “Eating with my kids and all my fellow Oklahomans at the @CollectiveOKC. It's packed tonight!"

“The governor will continue to take his family out to dinner and to the grocery store without living in fear, and encourages Oklahomans to do the same,” Charlie Hannema, a spokesman for the governor, said in an email.

Health officials have advised people to distance themselves from each other socially. Some states have banned gatherings with more than a certain number of people.

Officials in New Jersey are considering a statewide curfew to help prevent the spread of the virus, New Jersey Gov. Phil Murphy said Sunday. One city in the state, Hoboken, has already implemented one — from 10 p.m. to 5 a.m. — starting Monday. Additionally, bars and restaurants in Hoboken that serve food can only offer takeout or delivery, and bars without food have to shut down, Mayor Ravi S. Bhalla said.

"A friend of mine walked into a bar/restaurant last night in Asbury Park and they were packed,” Murphy, a Democrat, said on WBLS-FM 107.5. “And people are on top of each other. And that’s probably, sadly, at least for the near term, scenarios that we’re not going to be able to abide by much longer because, inevitably, somebody is going to infect somebody else in a situation like that.”

Reacting to the curfew announcement in Hoboken, New York City Mayor Bill de Blasio said Sunday on CNN that a lockdown in the nation's largest city couldn't be ruled out. Bars and restaurants should operate for now at 50 percent capacity so customers have more space, he told the ABC-TV affiliate in New York.

New Orleans Mayor LaToya Cantrell said it was “unacceptable” that people were ignoring a ban issued by Gov. John Bel Edwards on gatherings of more than 250 people. The violators were “actively increasing the danger to their neighbors and their loved ones,” Cantrell said.

The hashtag, “StayTheFHome,” was trending on Twitter. Several countries in Europe have closed bars.

The vast majority of people who contract the new virus recover within weeks. It causes only mild or moderate symptoms for most people, but can cause more severe illness, including pneumonia for some, especially older adults and people with existing health problems.

Advising people to completely avoid restaurants “might be overkill right now,” the nation's top infectious disease expert, Anthony Fauci, said on CBS' “Face the Nation,” but he added that he wouldn't go to one himself because he didn't want to be in a “crowded place” and risk having to self-quarantine.

Republican Rep. Devin Nunes had a different message on Fox News Sunday, encouraging people to go to local restaurants and pubs.

“There’s a lot of concerns with the economy here because people are scared to go out, but I will just say one of the things you can do — if you’re healthy, you and your family it’s a great time to just go out, go to a local restaurant, likely you can get in easily," he said. "Let’s not hurt the working people in this country that are relying on wages and tips to keep their small business going."

I'm scheduled to attend two Sig armorer's courses in Obetz on the 18th and 19th (P320 and P365). Guess I'll have to pack my lunch...if the classes happen at all. As far as I can tell, they're still on. I'm going to be pissed off if they cancel, I've been waiting for these for months.

The economic impact of politicians overreacting to this thing is 100x scarier than the virus itself.

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What happens if parades aren’t canceled during pandemics? Philadelphia found out in 1918, with disastrous results.

“With the flu pandemic at its peak, St. Louis decided to cancel its parade, while Philadelphia chose to continue. The next month, more than 10,000 people in Philadelphia died from pandemic flu, while the death toll in Saint Louis did not rise above 700,” the CDC noted. “This deadly example shows the benefit of canceling mass gatherings and employing social distancing measures during pandemics.”
https://www.washingtonpost.com...ade-flu-coronavirus/

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Originally posted by braillediver:

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What happens if parades aren’t canceled during pandemics? Philadelphia found out in 1918, with disastrous results.

“With the flu pandemic at its peak, St. Louis decided to cancel its parade, while Philadelphia chose to continue. The next month, more than 10,000 people in Philadelphia died from pandemic flu, while the death toll in Saint Louis did not rise above 700,” the CDC noted. “This deadly example shows the benefit of canceling mass gatherings and employing social distancing measures during pandemics.”
https://www.washingtonpost.com...ade-flu-coronavirus/

Call me crazy, but I think healthcare and OTC drugs have improved just a bit since 1918. Geez Louise.

Of course my daughter works in the fast food industry and her boss just texted her and said they're just going to close for the week (small family restaurant).

This is the stupidest thing Ohio's ever done.