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May 21, 2017, 09:13 PM
henryaz
New Tacoma
 
I have a 2010 extended cab. At the time, I was opposed to losing a foot of bed space just for a double cab, but now, I think I would go with the double cab, considering how much I use the bed. I would never go with a tonneau, because I do use my bed, but 5 ft of length is plenty for my purposes.
 
Nice truck!!
 
May 21, 2017, 09:29 PM
Ken226
I'm a Dodge Ram guy myself, but the Tundra and Tacoma are a very, very close 2nd for me.

It was a tough choice, the Toyotas build quality is better than anything out there, but for towing I went with the Hemi torque.

That's a gorgeous truck!! I'll forever be envious of the Toyota slow crawl assist! Does yours have it?
May 21, 2017, 09:38 PM
Jupiter
So far, i'm loving my 2017 Tacoma.




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May 21, 2017, 10:03 PM
ElKabong
quote:
Originally posted by Ken226:
I'm a Dodge Ram guy myself, but the Tundra and Tacoma are a very, very close 2nd for me.

It was a tough choice, the Toyotas build quality is better than anything out there, but for towing I went with the Hemi torque.

That's a gorgeous truck!! I'll forever be envious of the Toyota slow crawl assist! Does yours have it?



No crawl control or MTS on manual transmission models
Gotta drive it yourself lol!
Does have diff lock if shit gets real though


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May 21, 2017, 10:22 PM
Bassamatic
That's a nice truck. I see several people going back to the stick shift. Makes driving a lot more interesting and should give a few more mpg's.



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May 22, 2017, 12:11 AM
Speedbird
Originally posted by ElKabong:
"...TRD Off-road...with 6speed manual..."

Respect!
May 22, 2017, 03:57 AM
Fire Away
quote:
Originally posted by SIGSense:
The auto tranny is problematic


What makes you say this? Is it actual experience or hearsay? Just curious.
May 22, 2017, 08:11 AM
snwghst
These are well worth the $25

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May 22, 2017, 11:16 AM
acidjazz
Congrats! Those Tacos are super nice trucks and the resale value is insanely good.
May 22, 2017, 11:31 AM
ridewv
Nice truck congratulations!

I would have one now if they offered that same truck in Access Cab, which has the 1'longer bed.



quote:
Originally posted by ElKabong:
.....I broke down and bought a new Tacoma
I'll be driving enough that I'd like that new car reliability, and was without a truck for the first time in my adult life. So, pretty easy decision.

2017 TRD Off-road
V6 with 6speed manual
Loving it so far!




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May 22, 2017, 07:06 PM
SIGSense
quote:
Originally posted by Fire Away:
quote:
Originally posted by SIGSense:
The auto tranny is problematic


What makes you say this? Is it actual experience or hearsay? Just curious.


The only personal experience I have with the auto tranny in the new 3rd Gen Taco was on an extended test drive I took late last year (2016). During that test drive (2017 TRD Sport, 4 door, 4X4) the six speed automatic could not decide what gear it wanted in city driving. On the highway, once we got up to 60 MPH it was OK…. Until slight hills. Then it went gear hunting again. The 6 speed auto is continually shifting. This concerned me. I have owned/driven both 1st and 2nd Generation Tacomas with automatic trannies. I am well-versed in their use and methods of shifting/operation.

I later learned that this was a common problem with the new Taco. So much of an issue---that Toyota released two Technical Service Bulletins (TSB) in an attempt to correct this problem. You may read the TSB here: https://www.tacomaworld.com/ou...LXNiLTAwNzctMQ%3D%3D

Expanded list and NHTSA numbers: http://www.toyotaproblems.com/tsbs/Tacoma/2016/

Most 2016/17 Taco owners say that after the new software “flash” is done by their service department, it Shifts way smoother and the foot-pedal is more responsive.

Here’s a short video on one owners experience: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SQv4XJbnVX4

This site has a graph detailing common problems with the 2016: https://www.carcomplaints.com/Toyota/Tacoma/2016/

This Edmunds article discusses the trannie: https://www.edmunds.com/toyota...nt-impress-much.html

This owner talks about the TSB on his new Taco: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=52CVModIzek
And another: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3AV71J3djOQ

And yet another: http://videos68.com/video/2016...-inserts/6ZRxzKLtsic

All the above is why I personally would purchase the six speed manual over the automatic. YMMV.
May 23, 2017, 01:42 AM
ftttu
Nice Taco, OP.

I was at Toyota dealership in College Station, Texas this last Saturday, and they had a Tacoma Double Cab 4WD TRD Pro sitting in the showroom. (I checked it out to pass my time while my vehicle wes being serviced.) Pretty nice truck, but the $50,000.00 price tag for a Tacoma just didn't compute. Also, for a TRD Pro, I was surprised that the tires were more of a street tire than an off road tire. Still, it was a nice truck, but not worth anywhere near $50K IMHO. I will stay with my 2003 Tacoma Double Cab 4WD TRD for now and for a long time to come.


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May 23, 2017, 06:10 AM
NK402
My friend has a new one and his only complaint is that he has trouble reading the instruments in the daytime as they are not illuminated. The instruments on my 2006 4-Runner were illuminated during the day, wonder why these are not .
May 23, 2017, 06:19 AM
94hokie
Nice looking ride! I love my '13 4Runner, big Toyota fan here.
May 23, 2017, 06:29 AM
gearhounds
I love my 98 Taco. Just rolled 200K and chugging along nicely. The only thing I don't like about the newer trucks is the reduced ground clearance. Mine looks like it's been lifted by comparison.




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May 23, 2017, 06:51 AM
cmparrish
The auto tranny gets better with age on the 2017's. I've got about 5k on mine now and through a combination of me learning how the truck likes to be driven and the truck learning how I like to drive, we have come to a mutual understanding and it's great.

You can drive it aggressively if you want and watch the MPG tank but it's responsive and fun or you can drive it conservetively and enjoy a decent MPG.

The biggest issue I have with the tranny is likes to be in 5/6 gear at low speeds so sometimes it tends to lug. You really have to put a lot of pedal into it to get it to downshift which takes some getting use too. The go pedal seems to have a long travel distance (think double action revolver) so you tend to have to push it further then other vehicles to get it moving.

Overall I'm very happy with mine and glad to be back into a Toyota after my last experience with RAM.

Chris
May 23, 2017, 06:58 AM
Fire Away
quote:
Originally posted by SIGSense:
quote:
Originally posted by Fire Away:
quote:
Originally posted by SIGSense:
The auto tranny is problematic


What makes you say this? Is it actual experience or hearsay? Just curious.


The only personal experience I have with the auto tranny in the new 3rd Gen Taco was on an extended test drive I took late last year (2016). During that test drive (2017 TRD Sport, 4 door, 4X4) the six speed automatic could not decide what gear it wanted in city driving. On the highway, once we got up to 60 MPH it was OK…. Until slight hills. Then it went gear hunting again. The 6 speed auto is continually shifting. This concerned me. I have owned/driven both 1st and 2nd Generation Tacomas with automatic trannies. I am well-versed in their use and methods of shifting/operation.

I later learned that this was a common problem with the new Taco. So much of an issue---that Toyota released two Technical Service Bulletins (TSB) in an attempt to correct this problem. You may read the TSB here: https://www.tacomaworld.com/ou...LXNiLTAwNzctMQ%3D%3D

Expanded list and NHTSA numbers: http://www.toyotaproblems.com/tsbs/Tacoma/2016/

Most 2016/17 Taco owners say that after the new software “flash” is done by their service department, it Shifts way smoother and the foot-pedal is more responsive.

Here’s a short video on one owners experience: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SQv4XJbnVX4

This site has a graph detailing common problems with the 2016: https://www.carcomplaints.com/Toyota/Tacoma/2016/

This Edmunds article discusses the trannie: https://www.edmunds.com/toyota...nt-impress-much.html

This owner talks about the TSB on his new Taco: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=52CVModIzek
And another: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3AV71J3djOQ

And yet another: http://videos68.com/video/2016...-inserts/6ZRxzKLtsic

All the above is why I personally would purchase the six speed manual over the automatic. YMMV.


Thanks for the detailed feedback. This is what I was looking for. You really did your homework.
May 23, 2017, 08:02 AM
Sig209
Would it be safe to assume that since those issues are well-documented that all new Tacomas leaving the lot have had those corrective modifications performed??

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May 23, 2017, 09:32 AM
Jupiter
quote:
Originally posted by ftttu:
Nice Taco, OP.

I was at Toyota dealership in College Station, Texas this last Saturday, and they had a Tacoma Double Cab 4WD TRD Pro sitting in the showroom. (I checked it out to pass my time while my vehicle wes being serviced.) Pretty nice truck, but the $50,000.00 price tag for a Tacoma just didn't compute. Also, for a TRD Pro, I was surprised that the tires were more of a street tire than an off road tire. Still, it was a nice truck, but not worth anywhere near $50K IMHO. I will stay with my 2003 Tacoma Double Cab 4WD TRD for now and for a long time to come.


Someone is asking about $7000 more than what I gave for mine with an 8 year extended warranty.
Depending on what part of the country you're in, dealers will not negotiate and they are selling them for 5-8k over sticker. In the south, not so much. I managed to talk them down.
I traded in an FJ Cruiser and they gave me in trade what the dealer paid 3 years ago.

I had a 2011 Tacoma TRD Off-road. I feel like my 2017 is a better truck. I would bet most owners are very happy with them.


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-- George Orwell

May 23, 2017, 09:38 AM
snwghst
quote:
Originally posted by Jupiter:
So far, i'm loving my 2017 Tacoma.




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