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It is interesting that all bullets in those three calibers penetrated and performed so closely.


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I wish they had used some fmj 9mm and 5.56mm . I'm curious how much they would have penetrated in comparison to the hp bullets.


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You'd think that law enforcement agencies would have databases reporting the results of of human shootings. Organized by caliber, cartridge, location of hit, penetration, and degree of expansion. Maybe not available to the public though.



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Originally posted by Pipe Smoker:
You'd think that law enforcement agencies would have databases reporting the results of of human shootings. Organized by caliber, cartridge, location of hit, penetration, and degree of expansion. Maybe not available to the public though.


Look for a book called "Stopping Power".
It's what you are describing.

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You'd think that law enforcement agencies would have databases reporting the results of of human shootings. Organized by caliber, cartridge, location of hit, penetration, and degree of expansion. Maybe not available to the public though.


This material is reported and collected and has for decades. It's been hashed and rehashed and the fodder for every other ammunition article ever written...and the bottom line is it doesn't count for much.

Whether Evans and Sannow, or Fackler, etc...it's far more about bullet placement than cartridge or caliber, far more so than bullet type. Even then it's still highly subjective to context and the individual who has been shot.
 
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