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The Federal Bureau of Investigation today released the 2016 edition of its Crime in the United States (CIUS) report, a part of the FBI’s Uniform Crime Reports (UCR). Report Getting shot is no achievement. Hitting your enemy is. NRA Endowment Member . NRA instructor | ||
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Well, after we have seen what lying, deceiving animals they can be (especially their leader comey, I wonder how valid any thing they tell us is. Never be more than one step away from your sword-Old Greek Wisdom | |||
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thats nice and all, but has it been vetted to determine if any of its true? after all, the FBI seems pretty good at making things up and not solving crimes [B] Against ALL enemies, foreign and DOMESTIC | |||
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Detroit doesn't agree with the stats that's for sure. Police chief and former head of FBI in Detroit are skeptical: http://www.freep.com/story/new...mes-craig/701889001/ | |||
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The FBI stats are only as good as the info fed to them. For instance, my old department routinely changed a breaking and entering to a motor vehicle with larceny, (which is a felony in NC) to a "Larceny from a Motor Vehicle". (which is a misd.) Thereby reducing the number of felonies turned into the FBI and reporting that the crime rate was "down" or some other such nonsense.... Playing the numbers against other nonsensical dates in history also screws with the comparable crime rate. ie, comparing last months crimes numbers against last years, or last years month solely, or against another month entirely. (comparing last month-August, against "last fall" and using Sept.16's stats) Trust and believe if my little town figured out how to bamboozle the city council into buying their "stats"; other cities have done the same-nationwide.... "Violence, naked force, has settled more issues in history than has any other factor.” Robert A. Heinlein “You may beat me, but you will never win.” sigmonkey-2020 “A single round of buckshot to the torso almost always results in an immediate change of behavior.” Chris Baker | |||
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I am not inclined to believe anything the FBI has to say. If the FBI told me it is going to be a beautiful day, I'd pull out my storm gear. After listening to the lying sack of shit that used to run that gang, I don't believe anything they say. | |||
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The numbers are submitted by the cities, through the states in some cases to the FBI. The FBI does not come up with the numbers.
Then fix your submissions to the FBI. It's not like the FBI wants to publish incorrect data. The preliminary statistics for 2016 was released in January this year, so I'm assuming there is plenty of time for corrections. Concerning Rankings This statement from the FBI has always been included since I started reviewing these reports.
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The above are some of the reasons why I never bought into the [sarc]"gun control is working really great in Chicago and D.C."[/sarc] suggestions. Steve Small Business Website Design & Maintenance - https://spidercreations.net | OpSpec Training - https://opspectraining.com | Grayguns - https://grayguns.com Evil exists. You can not negotiate with, bribe or placate evil. You're not going to be able to have it sit down with Dr. Phil for an anger management session either. | |||
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I'm feeling the same way. If I were ever on jury duty in a Federal case, I'd have a tough time not being skeptical of any evidence they presented. | |||
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The FBI compiles the data. They touch the data and I am being completely serious when I say that that alone is enough for me to not trust the data. Two years ago, I would not have said such a thing, but then, along came the slithering worm Comey. Whether it's rational or not, I do not trust the FBI to present the truth to us, not even when they're supposedly simply passing it along. ____________________________________________________ "I am your retribution." - Donald Trump, speech at CPAC, March 4, 2023 | |||
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IOW, 63.7% of statistics are misleading and the rest are flat wrong. Luckily, I have enough willpower to control the driving ambition that rages within me. When you had the votes, we did things your way. Now, we have the votes and you will be doing things our way. This lesson in political reality from Lyndon B. Johnson "Some things are apparent. Where government moves in, community retreats, civil society disintegrates and our ability to control our own destiny atrophies. The result is: families under siege; war in the streets; unapologetic expropriation of property; the precipitous decline of the rule of law; the rapid rise of corruption; the loss of civility and the triumph of deceit. The result is a debased, debauched culture which finds moral depravity entertaining and virtue contemptible." - Justice Janice Rogers Brown | |||
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| Too old to run, too mean to quit! |
Until I find/see evidence that the FBI has radically changed its modus operandi, I believe nothing they say. That whole MCF over the hildabeast and her cohorts convinced me that there is not much, if any, in the federal gubbermint to actually trust. And "fudging the numbers" is not a new thing either. Been going on for a long time. Someone once told me that the problem with bureaucracies is that they operate like a septic tank. All the shit floats to the top. Seems appropriate, especially given the harsh fact that obummer and his ilk had EIGHT YEARS to convert the federal bureaucracy to what we have today. Trump called it a swamp, and, IMO, that is understating it. Elk There has never been an occasion where a people gave up their weapons in the interest of peace that didn't end in their massacre. (Louis L'Amour) "To compel a man to furnish contributions of money for the propagation of opinions which he disbelieves and abhors, is sinful and tyrannical. " -Thomas Jefferson "America is great because she is good. If America ceases to be good, America will cease to be great." Alexis de Tocqueville FBHO!!! The Idaho Elk Hunter | |||
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....as in, "no intention of being apprehended in making felonious statements" that DNC prosecutors would be unable to overlook.... **************~~~~~~~~~~ "I've been on this rock too long to bother with these liars any more." ~SIGforum advisor~ "When the pain of staying the same outweighs the pain of change, then change will come."~~sigmonkey | |||
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Oriental Redneck |
Yup, just because you only receive the data doesn't mean you can't manipulate them. Anyone who simply accepts whatever currently being handed to you as gospel has way too much faith the US government. Look at how corrupt it is, everywhere. The one man who is trying to turn things around and drain the swamp is being stifled in every way possible, not only by the rats and their complicit corrupt media, but also by the maggots of his own party. Q | |||
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Agree. It is not good info. The cities / states often slant, misreport or under report crime and send it off to the Feds. There has been some friction about types of crimes and how they should be described and classified. GIGO End of Earth: 2 Miles Upper Peninsula: 4 Miles | |||
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Let me get this straight... Illinois is known to be a state that prohibits carry and thereby does not have reciprocity with any other carry states. That said, the two states with the most murders by handgun are California and Texas. Might stand to reason as they are the most populated states. They represented 48% and 43% of all murders in those states, respectively ie. weapon of choice was a handgun. Yet in IL where you apparently cannot carry and there is no reciprocity, 77% of all murders occurred via a handgun. How's that working out for you IL! Risk the consequences of honesty... | |||
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Mike is correct. One department I worked for changed classifications around to hide the true amount and type of crime. Sic Semper Tyrannis If you beat your swords into plowshares, you will become farmers for those who didn't! Political Correctness is fascism pretending to be Manners-George Carlin | |||
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