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Originally posted by mike28w:
Anyone remember the Triumph or MG ??

I owned a 72 spit. Loved the car, so did autoparts store. Spent a lot on castrol brake fluid and my shoes wore a lot of it. Also lost reverse. First wife n I would fred flintstone backwards into parking spots. Great fun. Probably equal to my 07 997.1 Porsche. I miss them but not wife #1.

Probably should not have ignored the phone calls: We are calling about your ships extended warranty.


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Originally posted by tatortodd:

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The deployment to the US coast

WTF? Why would our closest ally need to deploy an aircraft carrier to our coast?

The exercise is WESTLANT 22, this is a unified work-up for the entire carrier battle group prior to deployment. Off each coast of the US, are exercise areas, where Navy battle groups get run through their paces; the air wing (which includes a USMC squadron) along with all the escort ships are 'certified' into a cohesive unit. Basically, the US has the resources and area to conduct such events.

The whole point of the UK building these two aircraft carriers was to supplement the USN, as the writing was on the wall over a decade ago that the USN's efforts were going to be directed towards the Pacific. US carrier deployments around the North Atlantic and Med were going to be less and less, so the onus was put on NATO members, particularly the UK and French Navies, to step-up their carrier game. With the UK back in the carrier game, the French evolving their next-gen carrier, and Italy attempting to bring some presence with their new carrier, this means less reliance on USN carriers.

This is not a development I wish to see with our best allies aircraft carrier. I hope this damage can be sorted out without a dry dock spell that lasts in the weeks instead of years sort of thing.

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Originally posted by mike28w:
Anyone remember the Triumph or MG ??

Hah! You won't get either of those in the air without a damned catapult!

With the proud tradition of the Royal Navy there must be a lot of shamed faces in the Admiralty. "The Queen is not amused." I wonder if they are going to ask Megan Markle to help straighten the PoW's shaft?

Tom Clancy wrote a series of non-fiction books about various aspects of the US military back in the 90's. One of them, "Carrier: A Guided Tour of an Aircraft Carrier" provides a great deal of insight into modern CV operations. Because of his widely-read fiction novels, he was able to gain access that few civilians could ever hope for. It will not make you an expert, but can fill in a lot of knowledge gaps.

Gotta watch out for those Harbor Freight sourced propeller shafts.

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Originally posted by RogueJSK:

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Originally posted by egregore:
I assume this means this is the second of the two they have now? This can't be only their second aircraft carrier.

Correct. They've had dozens before in the past.

The Royal Navy was one of the earliest innovators in carrier operations, and they have a long history of fielding carriers.

I knew that. But the way the article is worded, I don't know if the writer(s) knew it. Maybe I'm reading too much into it.

I don't understand why they didn't stand down the ship after two years of problems. Whenever a ship comes off overhaul or new build, there's always a shakedown cruise. If it doesn't pass, it goes back to address the problems then shakedown cruise again. Two years of problems sounds like they bought a lemon.

" I wonder if they are going to ask Megan Markle to help straighten the PoW's shaft?"

You, Sir, won the internet for today!

I was wondering if the prop might've hit a Russian sub shadowing them...

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Originally posted by egregore:

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Originally posted by RogueJSK:

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Originally posted by egregore:
I assume this means this is the second of the two they have now? This can't be only their second aircraft carrier.

Correct. They've had dozens before in the past.

The Royal Navy was one of the earliest innovators in carrier operations, and they have a long history of fielding carriers.

I knew that. But the way the article is worded, I don't know if the writer(s) knew it. Maybe I'm reading too much into it.

The Royal Navy invented the angled flight deck.

The Royal Navy invented the mirror landing system.

The Royal Navy invented the steam catapult.

The Royal Navy was the first to armour the flight deck.

The Royal Navy invented the ski-ramp for VSTOL aircraft like the Sea Harrier, which the British also invented, and which the USMC still flies.

But apart from that, they've had very little to do with aircraft carriers....

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Originally posted by tacfoley:
The Royal Navy invented the angled flight deck.

The Royal Navy invented the mirror landing system.

The Royal Navy invented the steam catatpult.

The Royal Navy was the first to armour the flight deck.

The royal Navy invented the ski-ramp for VSTOL aircraft like the Sea Harrier, which the British also invented, and which the USMC still flies.

But apart from that, they had very little to do with aircraft carriers.

Not to mention that they were the first to launch a successful carrier-based airstrike against a land target, when the HMS Furious (a battlecruiser that had been retrofitted to carry biplanes) launched 7 Sopwith Camels to strike the German airbase at Tondern in 1918.

More importantly, they were later the first to launch a successful strike against an opposing fleet using solely carrier-based aircraft, when the HMS Illustrious sent 21 Fairey Swordfish to torpedo the Italian fleet at Taranto in 1940, destroying or damaging half of Italy's capital ships.

(This raid served as the model for the Japanese attack at Pearl Harbor the following year, and the Taranto Raid signaled the advent of modern naval warfare, where long-range aircraft-only naval strikes from carriers became the norm, rather than ships with big guns closing to fire at each other.)

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Originally posted by RogueJSK:

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Originally posted by tacfoley:
The Royal Navy invented the angled flight deck.

The Royal Navy invented the mirror landing system.

The Royal Navy invented the steam catatpult.

The Royal Navy was the first to armour the flight deck.

The royal Navy invented the ski-ramp for VSTOL aircraft like the Sea Harrier, which the British also invented, and which the USMC still flies.

But apart from that, they had very little to do with aircraft carriers.

Not to mention that they were the first to launch a successful carrier-based airstrike against a land target, when the HMS Furious (a battlecruiser that had been retrofitted to carry biplanes) launched 7 Sopwith Camels to strike the German airbase at Tondern in 1918.

More importantly, they were later the first to launch a successful strike against an opposing fleet using solely carrier-based aircraft, when the HMS Illustrious sent 21 Fairey Swordfish to torpedo the Italian fleet at Taranto in 1940, destroying or damaging half of Italy's capital ships.

(This raid served as the model for the Japanese attack at Pearl Harbor the following year, and the Taranto Raid signaled the advent of modern naval warfare, where long-range aircraft-only naval strikes from carriers became the norm, something that still holds true today.)

Thanks for mentioning the other things those pesky Brits got up to with their aircraft carriers. One hesitates to boast.

Fix Or Repair Daily. Seems like constant breakages may be a thing with the latest generation of carriers, US and UK.

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Originally posted by architect:
I wonder if they are going to ask Megan Markle to help straighten the PoW's shaft?

I may or may not have seen that F-I-L <-> D-I-L documentary.

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Originally posted by tacfoley:
Thanks for mentioning the other things those pesky Brits got up to with their aircraft carriers. One hesitates to boast.

You left off that it was the British who developed the technique to successfully land the Vought F4U Corsair on a carrier after the U.S. had given up on the plane as carrier based.

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Originally posted by sigcrazy7:

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Originally posted by tacfoley:
Thanks for mentioning the other things those pesky Brits got up to with their aircraft carriers. One hesitates to boast.

You left off that it was the British who developed the technique to successfully land the Vought F4U Corsair on a carrier after the U.S. had given up on the plane as carrier based.

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It was the British who finally worked out a method of landing the Corsair on their carriers in spite of the visibility problems caused by the long nose. Instead of the normal downwind-crosswind-final approach method, the British simply turned downwind, then made a slow, continuous curve which aligned the Corsair with the deck only at the last second before the aircraft touched down and trapped. This method allowed the pilot to keep the Landing Signals Officer in view right up to the moment the plane was over the fan-tail where the LSO gave the sign to either "cut" or make another attempt.

The Aviation History Online Museum

Dry docking in Amsterdam?
There's supposed to be a dry-dock up in Rosyth Scotland that handles servicing for these ships...wonder if its a distance issue or her sister ship is up there getting work done?

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Originally posted by OldMick:
They should have stayed away from that Lucas electrical system.

BON MOT!