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I do not watch ESPN anymore but was at a bar and saw part of this game. ESPN got duped into showing this because they focus more on politics than sports now. Serves them right, and other than the obvious concern for the players safety this has me laughing right now. Turns out one of the schools playing isn’t much of a school at all, their address is an office park and their coaches are wanted on multiple warrants including failure to appear in a domestic violence case.

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When Bishop Sycamore took the field in Canton, Ohio, on Sunday to face IMG Academy (Florida), ESPN's announcers thought they'd be calling a game between two elite high school football teams.

It didn't take long for it to become clear that one of those teams wasn't what it said it was.

Bishop Sycamore — which claims to be based in Columbus, though there's no address listed on the website, and the "About Us" and "Staff" pages on the site are blank — was overmatched from the beginning as it took on the No. 2 team in the country, according to MaxPreps.

The game quickly caught national attention as it was broadcast on ESPN's main channel. Social media was aflame with questions about how Bishop Sycamore came to be scheduled for the game, when it clearly was not fit to be playing against a team of IMG's caliber.

ESPN announcer: This is not a fair fight

Midway through the second quarter, as Bishop Sycamore trailed 30-0, commentator Anish Shroff acknowledged that ESPN hadn't been able to find evidence to support Bishop Sycamore's claims that it brought a roster laden with Division I talent.

"Bishop Sycamore told us they had a number of Division I prospects on their roster, and to be frank, a lot of that, we could not verify," Shroff said. "They did not show up in our database, they did not show up in the databases of other recruiting services. So, OK, that’s what you’re telling us, fine, that’s how we take it in. From what we’ve seen so far, this is not a fair fight, and there’s got to be a point where you’re worried about health and safety."

After the game, which IMG won 58-0, Shroff responded to comments on Twitter that Bishop Sycamore was the only school in Ohio willing to play IMG.

"Sorry," Shroff wrote. "They had no business being in that game today. None. I feel bad for the kids. Player health and safety was at risk today. It was uncomfortable for anyone who watched."

Marketing group scheduled the game, not ESPN


ESPN itself didn't schedule the game, which was part of the GEICO ESPN High School Football Kickoff. Paragon Marketing Group took care of finding matchups and providing them to ESPN, as the companies' relationship spans nearly 20 years.

“We regret that this happened and have discussed it with Paragon, which secured the matchup and handles the majority of our high school event scheduling," ESPN said in a statement. "They have ensured us that they will take steps to prevent this kind of situation from happening moving forward.”

A spokesman for Paragon told USA TODAY Sports that transfers at the prep level, especially for an online school, can make confirming rosters difficult. The roster they were presented with a month ago was drastically different than the one for the game against IMG Academy, the spokesman said, adding that a more scrutinized look within 10 days was likely necessary.

A normal vetting process, said the spokesman, includes research into the coaching staff, a cross-check of the roster with recruiting rankings, the previous years’ schedules and the upcoming season’s strength of schedule.

Bishop Sycamore has multiple matchups against powerhouses remaining in 2021, with opponents including Duncanville (Texas), St. Edward (Ohio) and DeMatha Catholic (Maryland).

Bishop Sycamore played Friday and Sunday

Bishop Sycamore lost 19-7 to Sto-Rox on Friday night before facing IMG on Sunday. Speaking on Twitter Spaces on Monday, Bishop Sycamore coach Roy Johnson said about 15 players played in both games, though he said most of them played only small portions.

The Friday night game was never disclosed to Paragon and wasn’t on the schedule the company had for Bishop Sycamore. The company only became aware of the transgression Sunday evening once they began receiving questions, according to a Paragon spokesperson.

Game footage from both matchups reviewed by Awful Announcing shows that players who appeared in both games played more than Johnson indicated.

"(Playing two games in three days) is against any high school rule, but they don't have to abide by those rules not being a high school," Akron Archbishop Hoban athletic director and football coach Tim Tyrell said. "They're not a high school."

What is Bishop Sycamore?

It isn't clear if Bishop Sycamore is a school at all for the 2021-22 school year.

The Ohio Department of Education lists no charter school by that name, but last year the department listed Bishop Sycamore as a "non-chartered, non-tax supported school," a type of school that "because of truly held religious beliefs, choose to not be chartered by the State Board of Education."

Each non-chartered, non-tax supported school must certify in a report to parents at the start of each school year that it meets the Ohio school operating standards in a report that must be filed with the Ohio Department of Education. No one from the department's communications office returned a telephone call Monday, and it was unclear if Bishop Sycamore filed that report.

Non-chartered, non-tax supported schools must report their students' participation and attendance to their local school district treasurer, which for Bishop Sycamore the state lists as Columbus City Schools. Columbus schools couldn't immediately say whether the school filed anything with it for last school year.

The state lists Bishop Sycamore's mailing address as a post office box, and its "physical address" as 3599 Chiller Lane in Columbus — the address of Resolute Athletic Complex, an indoor sports facility near Easton Town Center.

An official there told the Columbus Dispatch that a football team-sized group of about 30 kids work out in the complex's weight room and turf fields about once a month, but no school classes have ever been located at the site. The person spoke with the Dispatch on the condition of anonymity due to the sensitivity of the situation.

"They don't have an actual school here," the person said. "Not schooling. We're just like their training facility."

Johnson said they operate the schooling out of the facility "a few days a week." He later said Bishop Sycamore rents the facility "once in a while."

The complex's contact for the school is Andre Peterson, who the state also lists as the school's contact.

"I think he's like the coordinator, I guess you could say," the person from the sports complex said. "I think he's like the funding guy."

A recruiting address listed online comes back to the library at Franklin University in Downtown Columbus. A person answering the phone at the library said Bishop Sycamore rented a room there last year but doesn't anymore.

Johnson said Monday that Bishop Sycamore's 2021-22 enrollment begins on Sept. 1 and the education will be through Excel, an online school.

Coaches warn of 'red flags'
In addition to the questions about the academic legitimacy of Bishop Sycamore's program, the football aspect doesn't appear much stronger. Since becoming a program in 2020, Bishop Sycamore has yet to win a game and has been outscored 342-49.

Bishop Sycamore is not a member of the Ohio High School Athletic Association, which requires member schools to play at least two sports in each of the fall, winter and spring seasons. OHSAA spokesman Tim Stried said OHSAA schools are allowed to play non-member schools, which can help teams fill out their schedule — as Bishop Sycamore did in July when it was added to Hoban's schedule.

Tyrell said he and Peterson spoke in the summer about scheduling the game, and Tyrell doesn't recall any red flags in those initial interactions. But when game week arrived, things began to feel unusual to Tyrell.

"The week of the game it was a little bit — some things were a little bit off-putting, not having rosters, not having who was actually playing, that type of stuff," Tyrell said. "But during the game, we didn't have any issues, other than a jersey issue. They didn't have their (light) jerseys so they had to go in the dark jersey."

Tyrell received calls from coaches who have previously played Bishop Sycamore, as well as anonymous emails, warning him to keep an eye on the roster and the ages of Bishop Sycamore's players, many of whom are believed to be older than 19 years old.

One parent, whose son was a member of the program in the summer before leaving the team, said his son was one of the younger players on the roster at age 18.

But when Tyrell brought those concerns to Peterson, he was assured that what he'd been told wasn't true.

"I trusted him and we got through the game without any incident," Tyrell said. "... There isn't anything negative to say about the actual game. The organization side of things leading up to the game, yes. I would second anything anyone says on that side of things about them not being organized, for sure."

247Sports reported that one player who appeared on defense for Bishop Sycamore was originally in the 2020 recruiting class and had previously used a fake ID to attend a seven-on-seven camp, while falsely claiming more than two dozen offers.

Coach says Bishop Sycamore a young, growing program
Johnson hit back Monday against the criticism of his program. He painted the program as a young, growing program that needs help to get off the ground and wants to help underprivileged young men create better lives for themselves.

But after over 90 minutes of the interview, no clear answers emerged from Johnson about how Bishop Sycamore operates, how the school hopes to get its athletes into college or how the team ended up on ESPN. Johnson openly solicited advice and guidance from reporters and others who asked questions during the conversation.

"I'm not gonna quit," he said. "I've never quit anything in my life. ... To quit would mean I'm quitting on my son, quitting on my family and quitting on these other 49 young men who are depending on me.

"... If you really care, then help. I can take criticism all day long and I totally understand it. There's a lot of things we've opened ourselves up to be criticized about."





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Bishop Sycamore football coach Leroy (Roy) Johnson, whose team of random online post-grads lost two games in 48 hours over the weekend, including being trounced by IMG Academy 58-0 on ESPN, faces an active warrant out of Delaware, Ohio, and multiple civil lawsuits, according to court documents obtained by OutKick.

The bench warrant for failure to appear in a domestic violence case that was eventually dropped to a criminal mischief charge was issued July 2 by the Delaware County Sheriff’s Office and remains active.

more at link below


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Even worse Manti Te'o is getting pulled into this. Tweets such as his girlfriend was homecoming queen there, etc.
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It wasn't on ESPN, it was on NBC (which was supposed to be showing the Daytona NASCAR race, but the first 2/3's of that was preempted in the DC area). They called the fake team "the Washington football team" and they were absolutely destroyed by the Ravens, a true embarrassment for the "team," the NFL, and all pro football fans, a group among who I am very happy to no longer include myself.

Sorry if this is a thread-jack, but it does fit with the theme of "fake sports" to go along with "fake news."

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IMG Academy (Florida)


IMG is a "school" that is designed to teach potential division 1 prospects the game of football.

Watch this eye opening video and then compare IMG Academy to your local high school. Does your local high school require your kids to eat breakfast, and then scrutinize their meal with a staff nutritionist who tells the kid to go get more protein?

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vjwg589SKVQ


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Even worse Manti Te'o is getting pulled into this. Tweets such as his girlfriend was homecoming queen there, etc.
Razz


That’s great!

I some people saying the BS team is full of 19-20yo JuCo dropouts. I’m not sure if that’s correct though. This whole situation is bizarre.
 
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IMG Academy (Florida)


IMG is a "school" that is designed to teach potential division 1 prospects the game of football.

Watch this eye opening video and then compare IMG Academy to your local high school. Does your local high school require your kids to eat breakfast, and then scrutinize their meal with a staff nutritionist who tells the kid to go get more protein?

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vjwg589SKVQ


I’m well aware of what IMG is without watching a video. I’ve been involved with youth sports long enough to know plenty. And frankly I would not want my kid going there even if he could, which isn’t an issue since he can’t anyway.

Whether you agree with their program or not, what they are not doing is lying to anyone. Don’t like it? Don’t go. That’s freedom. IMG is more like a tech school than your normal high school, and it’s very successful.

IMG and B.S. are not the same. B.S. put its players in danger in an almost certain attempt to swindle money out of parents and anyone else they could. The only upside is that they made a fool of ESPN in the process.




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IMG Academy (Florida)


IMG is a "school" that is designed to teach potential division 1 prospects the game of football.


I saw someone say that the headline of the story should have read:

Fake Team From Fake High School Loses To Real Team From Fake High School

Tuition to IMG, depending on the year and board options is $65K to $85K per year Eek




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IMG is a business, much like the NCAA. They crank out Div 1 prospects, in multiple sports (baseball, basketball, football, golf, lacrosse, soccer, tennis, and track and field) like crazy.

Say what you will, but most of their "students" are academically solid, as well as being some of the best athletes... Razz


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Bishop Sycamore football coach Leroy (Roy) Johnson, ...... faces an active warrant out of Delaware, Ohio, and multiple civil lawsuits, according to court documents obtained by OutKick.

The bench warrant for failure to appear in a domestic violence case that was eventually dropped to a criminal mischief charge was issued July 2 by the Delaware County Sheriff’s Office and remains active.


Wow, and I had to go through a background check just to read to my kid's class for 30 minutes.


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IMG is a business, much like the NCAA. They crank out Div 1 prospects, in multiple sports (baseball, basketball, football, golf, lacrosse, soccer, tennis, and track and field) like crazy.

Say what you will, but most of their "students" are academically solid, as well as being some of the best athletes... Razz


Yup. They had a record number of 7 former students get drafted to the NFL this year, breaking the previous record of 4, which was also set by them.




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Reads like Paragon Marketing Group is going to have their business relationships scrutinized and a few people are going to be out of a job.

As for IMG, they're the most high-profile of these 'sports academies' around the country; they're modeled on how European sports academies identify kids at a very young age who are talented in certain sports and develop them in a boarding school-type environment. IMG has a well developed tennis, golf and swim program, along with popular mainstream sports.

There's a number of these type of schools for prospective skiers around New England and the Western Mountain states. There's quite a few basketball focused academies around the country where many top-stars have emerged from, and with the NBA attempting to develop its own minor league system (D-league?) college basketball continues to bypassed and minimized as a path to the pros.
 
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That IMG place reminds me of the movie "Soldier" with Kurt Russell.
 
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Fine. I'm of the opinion that true colleges should not have sports programs at all. Let the sports "trade schools" have that action.

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I'm of the opinion that true colleges should not have sports programs at all.


I 100% agree with this statement, however, I was directly told by someone high up in the Pac-12 org that college sports generates more alumni dollars and general public interest than anything else the schools do. Therefore the programs grow and coaches make HUGE amounts of money


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I'm of the opinion that true colleges should not have sports programs at all.


I 100% agree with this statement, however, I was directly told by someone high up in the Pac-12 org that college sports generates more alumni dollars and general public interest than anything else the schools do. Therefore the programs grow and coaches make HUGE amounts of money

You're not wrong, sports generate an obscene amount of revenue for some schools, look at the SEC schools after all. The reality is most schools are barely in the black, with most of them running deficits, having to draw from their general funds to balance the budgets. To which, is there such a thing as a student-athlete when some student-athletes are more valuable than others?

The reality is, with the Name, Image, Likeness rulings being passed, were going to see several years of severe Have's and Have Not's splitting college athletics, to which I expect the NCAA to collapse as schools decide to drop a level and get out of scholarship-led sports all together.
 
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For those of you who think college sports should not exist, why do you think that? And do you have any facts to support your opinion on that matter?

Please don’t assume that my asking automatically means I support college athletic programs. I’m looking for input, not personal attacks.




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"A spokesman for Paragon told USA TODAY Sports that transfers at the prep level, especially for an online school, can make confirming rosters difficult."

So it's an online prep school?? To prep you for online college?

Online school with a football team? Maybe they're really good at Madden 2021?


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For those of you who think college sports should not exist, why do you think that? And do you have any facts to support your opinion on that matter?

Please don’t assume that my asking automatically means I support college athletic programs. I’m looking for input, not personal attacks.
A personal opinion is just that--a personal opinion--and does not really need "facts" to support it. My opinion is based on the observation that in many, if not most, colleges with big sports programs the sports programs control the college, even to the detriment of their academic standing. To me it is obscene that a football coach can make twice the income of a chemistry or mathematics professor. That it is the infatuation of the public sith organized sports that makes this possible is obvious, but deplorable.

Team sports do foster teamwork and leadership, but those can be learned in other places, too--the military comes to mind. I'm not saying that team sports should be done away with, just that in my opinion colleges are not the place to do it. I realize that is an unpopular opinion, but I've never been one to follow the crowd.

Perhaps academies devoted to sports like IMG are what we need more of, in order to satiate the lust of the public for sports. Those schools apparently do teach enough solid knowledge that the athletes won't starve when at age 35 they can't compete any more.

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Team sports do foster teamwork and leadership


I disagree, strongly. Have you worked with any ex-college athletes who were the standouts on their teams?? Have you hired any?

It's a paradox. One thinks you have to do what's best for the team to get ahead in sports, but the real rewards are for individual achievement which, to attain, means you step on some people along the way such that your star shines brighter. After all, the pro's don't draft teams, they draft individuals.

Maybe a long time ago there was "for the good of the team" behavior, but from what I have seen first hand, ex-college athletes tend to step on others so they can be individually recognized once they get to the business world. It's gotten to the point where if I see College sports on a resume, I have to really look to see if I'm getting an asshole or not.

sorry, to disagree but this is what I've seen over and over again first hand, and I feel it's gotten worse from athletes who played in the mid-90's and later.


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I disagree, strongly. Have you worked with any ex-college athletes who were the standouts on their teams?? Have you hired any?


Quite a few, actually. I’ve been the hiring partner at our firm for several years now and people who were college athletes are some of the most well-rounded and diligent candidates I’ve seen. There is a world of difference between someone who graduated with a 3.5 and played four years for a D-1 program and someone who had a 4.0 but has never worked before. I see quite a few of the latter, or I used to because those resumes typically get passed over now, and I will take the the athlete every time.

I’m not saying every former athlete is a great candidate because that would be silly. But the opposite is equally silly.
 
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