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As a life-long Catholic (73 yoa), I am now witnessing a new Schism. The infestation of Communism into the Church began after the Vatican Council 2 in 1964, when the “Prayer to St Michael” was dropped from the Ordinary of the Low Mass.

That Prayer had been specifically added by Pope Leo XIII in 1886 after he had a vision/dream of Satan and God conversing, in which Satan said he could destroy the Church. God said to Satan to have a go at it, but only one century could be used; Satan chose the 20th Century. God is said the have then revealed the events of the 20th Century to Pope Leo, which prompted him to write the Prayer.

https://www.americanthinker.co...f_with_the_pope.html

Archbishop Viganò faces off with the Pope
As some Catholics know, Archbishop Viganò is a hero in the eyes of many who do not enjoy the spectacle of Pope Francis’ continual and seemingly ongoing reversal of Catholic teaching and law. The hyperpolitical, leftist Pope has been, by his own words, engaged in irreversibly (he hopes) and increasingly modifying (according to his own predilections) the Catholic Church since he took papal office. Sound like anybody you know?

Viganò has been consistently faithful to Canon Law and to the established teachings of the Church, his warnings falling against a wall of thunderous silence from most of the Western bishops (some in America have supported him) and various dogbodies who tend to the administrative bidding of the Vatican rather than to follow the clear teachings of Jesus and his apostolic instructions. Viganò’s positions are therefore judged by Pope Francis and his like as those of a conservative and faithful priest -- not a globalist or environmentalist or an advocate of a post-national, socialist world.

Today, Viganò has been summoned to Rome with the threat of excommunication:

“Rome -- June 20, 2024

The disgraced former papal nuncio to the United States, Italian Archbishop Carlo Maria Viganò, announced that he has been charged with schism by the Vatican's doctrinal office, after a six-year rogue period in which he called for Pope Francis to resign and labeled him a "false prophet."

On June 20, the archbishop posted on his own website a two-page decree from the Vatican's Dicastery for the Doctrine of the Faith ordering him to appear for a trial regarding "public statements that show a denial of points necessary for the preservation of communion with the Catholic Church."

The decree is dated June 11 and is signed by Msgr. John Kennedy, secretary of the doctrinal office's disciplinary section, requesting that Viganò present himself on June 20 at 15:30 to formally receive the accusation and evidence against him.”

Actually, if there has been, or might be, any schism, it could sooner be laid at the door of Pope Francis himself. He has allowed politics and his own self-importance to destroy his only legitimate apostolic role, as a shepherd of Jesus’ faith. Francis courts the press, speaking out continually in a purely political framework; he scorns regular Catholics in America, he invites and courts celebrities and politicians with a frequency and tastelessness never approximated by any Pope in history. While reversing Canon Law with impunity himself, the Pope is now using his reimagined authority to possibly ex-communicate Viganò:

More recently, in 2022, Italy's military chaplain, Archbishop Santo Marciano, published an open letter to Viganò condemning his spread of conspiracy theories.


In his June 20 blog post, Viganò said he considered the charges brought against him to be an "honor.”

“A representative from the Vatican's doctrinal office did not immediately respond to NCR's request for comment. The decree states that if Viganò remains unresponsive through June 28, he will be sentenced in absentia.

According to the Church's Code of Canon Law, the charge of schism is punishable by excommunication.”

It is telling that the Pope’s episcopal staff used the slogan ‘conspiracy theory’ in its 2022 letter to Viganò -- the very phrase is redolent of the word-justifications for the current persecution of Christians by the American Left. In fact, much of the Pope’s current embroglios into politics reflect his obvious preference for ideology over substance, for opinion over matters of faith, and, most unfortunately, reveal a Bidenesque spite in his Papal wielding of power. In both men, personal interest is judged, instinctively or not, of far more relevance than that of their oaths of office. Next thing, the Pope will be talking ‘disinformation’ -- if he hasn’t already.

From Archbishop Viganò in his Easter 2024 message:

“Christians are progressively banished from civil society and considered a threat to the subversive project of the New World Order, while a minority of the vicious and perverted claim to erect their deviations as the universal norm. Here is the "visibility" of Biden and the woke ideology, celebrating a macabre mad dance to the abyss.”

No wonder Archbishop Viganò is in trouble in Rome, in a Vatican we have never seen before.


My church still says the Prayer To St. Michael after every Mass. Good on him for standing up for what is right.
 
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Apparantly he also supports Putin's invasion of Ukraine.

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Viganò adopted Russian President Vladimir Putin’s justifications for attacking Ukraine, lamenting the lack of media coverage of supposed neo-Nazi groups in Ukraine that have allegedly attacked Russian-speaking Ukrainians in the autonomous eastern Ukrainian regions of Donetsk and Luhansk. Ukrainian President Volodymyr Zelenskyy has ridiculed the idea that Nazism is behind the eight-year-old conflict in his country’s east, which Russia invaded in 2014
 
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Apparantly he also supports Putin's invasion of Ukraine.

The article you cite appears in the online magazine America, The Jesuit Review.
It was published on March 7, 2022. Pope Francis is a Jesuit, so of course it has a pro-Francis viewpoint.

Nevertheless, there is much in the article that is worth reading, you just have to keep in mind the context of the Jesuit publication.

Archbishop Viganò pushes conspiracy theories about Ukraine and Russia in 10,000-word letter

Claire Giangravé
March 07, 2022

VATICAN CITY (RNS) — As Pope Francis continued attempts to mediate the conflict in Ukraine, former Vatican envoy and outspoken papal critic Archbishop Carlo Maria Viganò released a letter Monday (March 7) blaming “deep state” forces in the United States, the European Union and NATO for triggering the current war and demonizing Russia.

“The United States of America and the European States must not marginalize Russia but build an alliance with it, not only to restart trade for the prosperity of all, but in lieu of the reconstruction of a Christian Civilization, which will be the only one able to save the world from the transhuman and medical-technical globalist monster,” the archbishop wrote in his nearly 10,000 word letter.

The archbishop, once the papal nuncio to the United States among other countries, has a keen understanding of what happens in rooms of power and influence, but since accusing Francis of covering up allegations of sex abuse against disgraced ex-cardinal Theodore McCarrick, going so far as to ask for the pope’s resignation in 2018, Viganò has been welcomed into the ranks of a small but outspoken Catholic conservative right. His rhetoric has increasingly leaned on anti-migrant, anti-vaccine and pro-Trump takes.

Cardinal Viganò’s rhetoric has increasingly leaned on anti-migrant, anti-vaccine and pro-Trump takes.

The archbishop said in his letter that Putin has been cornered by an aggressive NATO, backed by the United States, which is seeking to escalate the conflict for its own gains. “This is the trap for Russia just as much as Ukraine, using both to allow a globalist elite to bring its criminal plot to fruition,” Viganò wrote.

So-called democratic states, according to Viganò, have imposed “censure and intolerance” over dissenting opinions. The pandemic has exacerbated this dynamic, the archbishop said, adding that global media outlets “shamelessly lied” with the cooperation of governments and the Catholic hierarchy.

https://www.americamagazine.or...igano-ukraine-242526



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they'll have to sentence him in absentia, because he didn't go
 
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they'll have to sentence him in absentia, because he didn't go

Interesting.




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Archbishop Carlo Maria Vigano Is Found Guilty of ‘Schism’ and Is Excommunicated by Pope Francis

By Jim Hoft | Jul. 5, 2024 9:00 am

The Gateway Pundit reported that Archbishop Carlo Maria Viganò was summoned to the Vatican to be excommunicated by Red Pope Francis.

Archbishop Carlo Viganò, a friend of the faithful and totally dedicated to the Church and sharing the word of Jesus Christ, was notified that he was being summoned to the Vatican.

Vigano has been outspoken against the destruction of the Church, COVID mandates, and stolen elections. He has called out the current Pope for his destructive actions against the Church. He has warned about the World Economic Forum. For this, there are reports that he is being excommunicated from the Holy Catholic Church.

Archbishop Carlo Maria Vigano announced that he had not attended his Vatican ‘schism’ trial and he will not attend such a trial!

On Thursday the Vatican found Archbishop Vigano guilty of ‘schism’ and was excommunicated from the Church by Pope Francis.

Vigano is a staunch conservative Catholic and not a fan of the radical globalist Pope.

Via the National Catholic Reporter:

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Italian Archbishop Carlo Maria Viganò, the disgraced former papal nuncio to the United States who questioned the legitimacy of Pope Francis and the authority of the Second Vatican Council, has been found guilty of schism and excommunicated, the Vatican announced on July 5.

“His public statements manifesting his refusal to recognize and submit to the Supreme Pontiff, his rejection of communion with the members of the Church subject to him, and of the legitimacy and magisterial authority of the Second Vatican Council are well known,” stated a Vatican bulletin that announced the ruling.

The decision of Viganò’s excommunication was widely expected following the announcement by the archbishop himself on June 20 that he had been charged with schism by the Dicastery for the Doctrine for the Faith and that he would not be cooperating with the Vatican penal process.

At the time, Viganò said he would not comply with the request to present himself in person to formally receive the accusation and evidence against him and said he considered the charges brought against him to be an “honor.”

The June 11 Vatican decree stated that if Viganò remained unresponsive through June 28, he would be sentenced in absentia, and the July 5 Vatican statement announcing the excommunication noted that the Congress of the Dicastery for the Doctrine of the Faith met on July 4 to conclude the penal process against Viganò.

The statement also noted that the archbishop was notified with news of his excommunication on July 5 and that the reversal of such a decision is reserved to the Apostolic See.


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He isn't the one that deserves a trail. Francis and his com padres will get theirs.



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pope seems to body slam those who disagree and protect those he likes
 
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He isn't the one that deserves a trail. Francis and his com padres will get theirs.

Amen.

And the Judge Francis and his cronies will face won’t be distracted or taken in by by their theological “nuances” and rationalizations.

“For thou hast maintained my just cause; thou hast sat on the throne giving righteous judgment. Thou hast rebuked the nations, thou hast destroyed the wicked; thou hast blotted out their name for ever and ever. … But the Lord sits enthroned for ever, he has established his throne for judgment; and he judges the world with righteousness, he judges the peoples with equity.” Psalm 9:4-5,7-8.


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From the perspective of this non-denominational Protestant who married into a Catholic family (not Mrs.BurtonRW - she’s recovering), I’ve observed a lot over the last 25+ years, and even sat through a catechism class (at her parents’ request when we got engaged - that was interesting, but a story for another day).

Anyway… I liked and respected JPII quite a lot, but I can’t see how this current Jesuit commie bastard is anything short of an outright blasphemer - particularly after the whole “Christians, Jews, and Muslims worship the same God” bit. And yes, I read the actual statement in context.

Change my mind.

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