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| Green grass and high tides  |
me a troll, you a know it all. guess that makes us even jl. Rogue and I were just having some fun. Relax, no one is a troll or a know it all. Getting gun shows burglarized is a bad deal putting more guns on the street in the hands of the wrong people. That is all.  "Practice like you want to play in the game" | |||
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| Thank you Very little  |
Happened here a few years back, 7 "shirtless" youts broke in and stole 24 Guns. The location is in a rather seedy part of town, they got them all and the last guy a couple of years later... Link | |||
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I will get by |
Security for a large open floor venue would include K-9's... Or at least should have -- Glass breaking, dogs biting, would be thieves empty handed and bleeding. Do not necessarily attribute someone's nasty or inappropriate actions as intended when it may be explained by ignorance or stupidity. | |||
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had a break in at a store I managed (Grocery) only alarm was on the RX, 2 guys slammed a brick into the door glass (first attempt bounced,) then broke the inside door glass, ran about 25' to the counter, then put $3500 in cigarettes in bags, and out, in less than 3 minutes, had video of it all, I was amazed they moved as fast as they did, would have been faster if that first throw had not bounced https://chandlersfirearms.com/chesterfield-armament/ | |||
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| Muzzle flash aficionado  |
I think some sellers at big shows here actually stay overnight at their tables. And, of course, they carry. flashguy Texan by choice, not accident of birth | |||
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| Do No Harm, Do Know Harm |
Can't carry at the Charlotte one except for on-duty officers. I had to lock my shit in my vehicle. Had I known they didn't have metal detectors, I would have carried right the hell on in, however. Knowing what one is talking about is widely admired but not strictly required here. Although sometimes distracting, there is often a certain entertainment value to this easy standard. -JALLEN "All I need is a WAR ON DRUGS reference and I got myself a police thread BINGO." -jljones | |||
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| Big Stack |
I occasionally go to gun shows in PA (Oaks for those who know the area.) I'm amazed at the fairly low level of security out on the floor. I don't think it would be all that difficult for a skilled shoplifter (or team) to pilfer guns right off the tables. | |||
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| Non-Miscreant |
Happens from time to time. Some amusing results. One of our vendors, Pizza Man, heard his wife screaming and saw a piece of shit running. So he gave chase an collared the jerk. Not sure of the level of resistance, but the guy was complying when he got his ass drug back inside. Way back in the distant past I used to attend the Dayton, OH show. A group of inner city youths was trying to pick off easy targets, aka fat old white men. One got his gun off a table and then tried to run. An old Marine saw it going down and picked up a rifle. As the youth tried to run past him he took the butt in the mid section. I commented "wow, I bet that hurt". The Marine smiled and said "it was supposed to". High value firearms are probably difficult to fence for full value. Too easy to identify. Worse, they're not street guns. The time was, the street guns were 32s, usually old revolvers with a market value approaching $10. Now the criminals want equal firepower to the PoPo. I've read a couple of articles that suggest the criminals have better shooting skills because they "practice" in the same environment as they shoot people in, while the police practice at "ranges". It'll be an interesting show this weekend. Unhappy ammo seeker | |||
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| Big Stack |
The obvious grab and run types aren't so interesting. I'm wondering how often a dealer just notices a gun missing, with no idea of who took it and when it disappeared? This message has been edited. Last edited by: BBMW, | |||
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I have a buddy that does gun-shows in WI. I asked him this exact question two months ago, overnight security. He told me besides all the locks & stuff they had human, armed security patrolling the floor. Seems it came up sort in the posted example. Yes, if need be, have your loyal, watchful canine along too. | |||
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Sigforum K9 handler |
It’s not uncommon. Especially with the “not a dealer” dealers type shows. The offenders work in 2-3 man groups. | |||
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Dances with Wiener Dogs |
Yep. Guy I know who works local shows has been at several where they show up and tag team a vendor who is getting swamped. One provides a distraction while one of their team makes the swipe. Says the vendor that gets picked never saw it. They're pretty good at their game. _______________________ “The only power any government has is the power to crack down on criminals. Well, when there aren't enough criminals, one makes them. One declares so many things to be a crime that it becomes impossible for men to live without breaking laws.” Ayn Rand “If we relinquish our rights because of fear, what is it exactly, then, we are fighting for?” Sen. Rand Paul | |||
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| Victim of Life's Circumstances  |
I've been setting up for about 20 years now and I've never had a problem. I remember when Greg, a WWII expert, collared a thief who palmed a Sat night special off a table corner. Dickson acted like He was the hero. I take several lengths of cheap para cord and loop 3 or 4 guns together. Pick up one and they all move. More for show than anything else. I love most vendors security techniques... Cover your display with blankets, sheets, towels or whatever, the real deterrent is folding up the cheap chairs and stacking 2 or 3 of them on your display. That will keep the sticky fingered fuckers away by golly! I do it too.  A competitor of NGD recently fired the long time show mgr because of security issues. Seems his son was show security and son also had a new horny girlfriend. When they got locked inside the show for the night the party started. Things ended up missing, including their clothes, and it was all caught on security cameras.  ________________________ God spelled backwards is dog | |||
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| Member |
I understand about security handling the buildings around the area but wouldn't it make sense to have someone,even 1 person, actually inside the area where the guns are on the tables? I can't imagine how much money is just sitting out and everyone is ok with letting them just sit there while a "deterrent" is outside the area. I am not blaming the security but am blaming the ones in control of the event/promoter, as they appear incompetent at best. I hear about these issues many times but not one addresses the issue directly. They have to pay for security, so use it the proper way. | |||
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| Non-Miscreant |
Dickson prevents any of that by not having heat in the winter or AC in the summer. He's too cheap to pay for it. So, Dave, name names. And I'd like to have a horny new girlfriend. My wife would kill me, but I've lived a long and boring life. One of the things I've always wondered is if he prohibits cameras inside the show, How's he handle liability when things go missing at night. He's obviously got cameras but doesn't want you to have them. He considers himself better than you or I. Now I understand him running for US Senator a few years back. He'd just add to the problem. Was Goodman the "comeptitor?" Before you post the video of the events you just reported, I want to see a pix of the girl. That could get really disgusting. The one I want to see is Jerry Taylors son's GF running around nekkid. You'd make big $ selling that. Unhappy ammo seeker | |||
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