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Neighbor has a 2000 Wrangler, 4 banger and a 5 speed. Stock except for bigger tires.

He was kind enough to let me take it for a test drive. Very first observation was that it's not really built for 6 foot 200 pound rednecks like me. Even with the seat all the way back, my elbows are bent at a less-than-comfortable angle, and I'm WAY closer to the steering wheel than I prefer.

Second, it's not all that easy to get in and out of, partly due to overall space, partly due to the seat bottom being even with, if not below, the door sill.

Third, and this is probably due at least in part to the big wheels and tires and/or the 127,000 miles it has on it, but you have to actively think about keeping it between the lines.

The four-holer is a gutless wonder but that's to be expected.

So, while they're not entirely off the table, I'm looking for alternative 4 wheeled, road legal sunny day fun toys.
Re-reading your initial post, it's clear that you would be better off with something other than a Jeep.

Most responders got caught up in explaining why we either love or hate Jeeps. It's obvious that one group isn't going to convert the other.

Keep looking till you find something you like and then buy it.



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Posts: 2240 | Location: Michigan | Registered: May 24, 2009Reply With QuoteReport This Post
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I talked with three used car lots today (yes, I know, caveat emptor) and have them looking for my ideal toy:

Mustang/Camaro/Charger/Challenger. Manual Trans a must, V8 preferred, V6 possible in the right combination, no convertibles. Non-domestic equivalent considered on it's merits. Miata-sized are a no-go.

Nobody has anything like that in the system, but took notes and "will call/text". Not holding my breath, but at least it's out there.




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My dad served in the occupation force of Japan at the end of WWII. I guess that's where his... and thus my... love for Jeeps began.

Back home after the war, he bought two civilian model jeeps for farm use and general transportation. I can remember the six of us riding to Church on Sundays in that jeep as a small child! Six in a Jeep with two seats... sweet memory. Don't remember anyone falling out! Wish I had that Jeep now!

I have owned one or more of some verity of Jeep for 35 years.

Almost everyone is a fan of something... justified or not!



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It's funny, when I shop for a new vehicle with a manual transmission, and there are none on the lots, the salesmen always say "why do you want a stick? we don't stock them because nobody wants a manual anymore".

But when there IS a manual it's "you better act on this quick because manuals are in demand and hard to get".


I wouldn't rule out a 2.4 turbo..... https://www.facebook.com/marke...3d-a256-46f439430458


No car is as much fun to drive, as any motorcycle is to ride.
 
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My dad served in the occupation force of Japan at the end of WWII. I guess that's where his... and thus my... love for Jeeps began.

Back home after the war, he bought two civilian model jeeps for farm use and general transportation. I can remember the six of us riding to Church on Sundays in that jeep as a small child! Six in a Jeep with two seats... sweet memory. Don't remember anyone falling out! Wish I had that Jeep now!

I have owned one or more of some verity of Jeep for 35 years.

Almost everyone is a fan of something... justified or not!
Similar with me.

My Father, Grandfather, and Aunt all worked in the Willy's Plant in Toledo when the US entered WWII. Dad was drafted and wound up driving a Jeep in the European Theater while his Dad and Sister stayed behind to make them. Dad drove a Jeep across the Remagen Bridge into Germany a week or so before it collapsed. I still remember his description of that harrowing experience.

After the war, Aunt Peg got married but Dad and Grandpa worked at the Willy's Plant (in its many corporate permutations) until their respective retirements.

A lot of family history there.



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Posts: 2240 | Location: Michigan | Registered: May 24, 2009Reply With QuoteReport This Post
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I saw a documentary on the Army Jeeps.

In it, they said the life expectancy of a jeep in the European theater during World War II was 90 days.

So not much as changed?


It's a joke guys... A JOKE. Big Grin



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