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Replacing the porch on my house

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July 03, 2019, 06:51 AM
mark123
Replacing the porch on my house
The wife wants to add a porch. The current porch is a cement slab on block. It's old, crumbling and just too small for sitting.

I got an estimate for a roofed, larger (8'x12') cement slab at $6000 that goes between the two windows. The contractor was supposed to give prices for Trex as well but must have forgot.

I was going to build a deck myself but I have no idea how to tie a porch roof into the existing roof. That's why we called the contractor. We've used him before to do the metal roof and he's reliable. He's always been at the higher end in estimates compared to others but we've learned our lesson with flakey contractors.

Basically, I'm asking what do you think of adding a porch just between the two windows. Is 8' enough for sitting and enjoying the day? Anything to request? Would you rather have Trex than cement (I think we would).


July 03, 2019, 07:28 AM
MikeinNC
Trex or the equivalent, then you get to add trees and landscaping.



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July 03, 2019, 07:45 AM
smlsig
Not trying to spend your money but since you asked....

If you put a covered deck between the two windows it will looked “unbalanced”.

As a contractor with over 36 years of experience I would ask you to consider running the deck all the way across the front and put a “shed” roof on it. This would allow much more room to put a couple of chairs or even a porch swing on one end.
As far as what to use for a surface that depends..if you want to do some of the work yourself Trex or similar decking can be easily done then your contractor could put the posts and roof deck on, but a concrete porch is permanent.


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July 03, 2019, 08:02 AM
mark123
It can't go all the way across due to the sewer, had Ann's water pipes going under the lawn beneath the large window.
July 03, 2019, 08:03 AM
tsmccull
SML’s correct, full width is the only way to go. If you need to save a few bucks as a result, a 6’ deep porch will work almost as well as 8’. Ours extends 6’ from the house and while we occasionally wish it were deeper, those instances are few and far between.

Maybe Trex instead of concrete so you can cover the waterpipes, yet still get to them if required for repair or replacement? Don’t know if that’s allowed by code or not?
July 03, 2019, 08:58 AM
ridewv
quote:
Originally posted by smlsig:

If you put a covered deck between the two windows it will looked “unbalanced”.

As a contractor with over 36 years of experience I would ask you to consider running the deck all the way across the front and put a “shed” roof on it.....



That's exactly what I'd do. I'd go out at least 6', 8' would be better (my front porch is 10' deep). Not sure how adding a porch or deck could affect the under ground water line?


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July 03, 2019, 10:08 AM
mark123
Since it was brought up, I've been looking at covered porches and not one so far has gone full width. I suppose I'm just used to seeing unbalanced.

What is a "shed roof"? I'm not familiar with that term.
July 03, 2019, 10:11 AM
mark123
quote:
Originally posted by ridewv:
... Not sure how adding a porch or deck could affect the under ground water line?
How do you get to them in case of failure if you build on top of them?
July 03, 2019, 10:29 AM
straightshooter01
I would consider a porch from the door over and across the large window to somewhere near the downspout. This will allow you to keep your current flower bed for some curb appeal (add some color to that bed), will give you enough room to sit, will provide shade and cover for the big window and will look purposely unbalanced. As far a depth a lot depends on the direction of the sun, if the house faces west you will want as much depth as possible.
July 03, 2019, 10:32 AM
MikeinNC
- he's talking about corrugated tin roofing.
- do it all the way across and ten feet deep
- you tear up some decking if there is need to access the underground pipes (they dont fail all that often, maybe once in a lifetime)



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July 03, 2019, 10:53 AM
bigeinkcmo
I like the idea of a full-sized Trex porch/railing as I think it will look much better and be more functional. 8ft slabs still needs space for the door and to walk/in out which barely allows a chair on either side. What about skipping the roof and just added in a removable off-set umbrella on one side? Heck you could put a bistro set out front and make it more enjoyable. You could still also add a low profile awning to the front door that just attaches to the wall. And run the Trex decking parallel to the water lines if you're worried.

I'm assuming you wanted the roof to go over the door, which I like the idea of, but I think you have gutters to contend with, tying into the existing roof and all these things taking about from your modest budget. I think you'd get more bang for your buck with some of these suggestions personally.
July 03, 2019, 11:12 AM
6guns
Nice looking lawn! Smile

And I see you're working on the United States as part of your July 4th theme! Smile




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July 03, 2019, 11:38 AM
Chris42
Another vote for full length porch, Trex and screwed down, so it is easily taken up if needed. Your roof might be a 6/12 pitch. The new porch roof might be something like a 3/12 pitch. Make the deck 8’ wide with an over hang an additional 1-2’.

If there is a underground issue, how about the posts supporting be inset a bit and a cantilever of the supporting beam (supporting the floor) to avoid the underground issue?

The 8’ wide will be enjoyed for years and years. Definitely worth the effort.
July 03, 2019, 12:23 PM
mark123
quote:
Originally posted by 6guns:
Nice looking lawn! Smile

And I see you're working on the United States as part of your July 4th theme! Smile
Do you mean that spot of creeping bentgrass? It vexes me greatly.
July 03, 2019, 12:28 PM
mark123
I'll discuss extending the porch with the wife. Thanks for the advice everyone!
July 03, 2019, 12:57 PM
PASig
I am very jealous of your grass!

What is your secret?


July 03, 2019, 01:21 PM
6guns
quote:
Originally posted by mark123:
quote:
Originally posted by 6guns:
Nice looking lawn! Smile

And I see you're working on the United States as part of your July 4th theme! Smile
Do you mean that spot of creeping bentgrass? It vexes me greatly.


I guess that's what it is, Mark. Looks like the USA




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July 03, 2019, 01:58 PM
tsmccull
quote:
Originally posted by mark123:
quote:
Originally posted by 6guns:
Nice looking lawn! Smile

And I see you're working on the United States as part of your July 4th theme! Smile
Do you mean that spot of creeping bentgrass? It vexes me greatly.


When you start, dig up those two plants to the left side of the door and replant them right where the US map is. Throw some mulch around their bases - problem solved!
July 03, 2019, 03:32 PM
mark123
quote:
Originally posted by 6guns:
quote:
Originally posted by mark123:
quote:
Originally posted by 6guns:
Nice looking lawn! Smile

And I see you're working on the United States as part of your July 4th theme! Smile
Do you mean that spot of creeping bentgrass? It vexes me greatly.


I guess that's what it is, Mark. Looks like the USA
It does. Big Grin
July 03, 2019, 03:48 PM
recoatlift
It does look like the USA with California Washington, Oregon & a few other split away!