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UnitedHealth CEO Brian Thompson fatally assassinated outside the Manhattan Hilton Hotel in New York City.

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December 09, 2024, 11:54 AM
sgalczyn
UnitedHealth CEO Brian Thompson fatally assassinated outside the Manhattan Hilton Hotel in New York City.
Jeez.....did he also live stream his capture and call the media? It all seem a bit TOO convenient.
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December 09, 2024, 11:57 AM
WaterburyBob
quote:
Originally posted by wcb6092:
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Originally posted by WaterburyBob:
Why would you need an ID in a McDonalds?


Probably showed it to Law Enforcement when they received a tip and responded to the location.

My guess.
Probably right. The article is worded poorly (which is all too common today).



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December 09, 2024, 12:11 PM
Ripley
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Originally posted by saigonsmuggler:
The question that I have is.. will his murderous act end up saving lives? We saw that BCBS almost immediately reversed some of their policies. My guess is that UHC and others will also review/revise their denial policies or reduce the denial rate.

The execs are all afraid of copycats.


Hmm, a moral dilema. How many times has it been asked "If you could go back in history, would you kill Hitler"? I'm not equating anyone to Hitler but it isn't just monsters that leave families behind.




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December 09, 2024, 12:15 PM
Rightwire
This article indicates it was a tip that led police to him.

https://www.oann.com/newsroom/...-taken-into-custody/




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December 09, 2024, 12:23 PM
chellim1
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The individual that is now in custody had a manifesto on him, a gun, a suppressor, four fake IDs and other items that were “consistent” with what authorities would expect the killer to have in his possession.

The press likes to use the word "manifesto", often for anything written by a killer.
Sometimes, I don't think a writing is worthy of the word "manifesto". We shall see.

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December 09, 2024, 12:24 PM
gpbst3
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Originally posted by Gustofer:
How do they know he took a bus from Atlanta to NYC and yet not know his name? And if they know his name (they do) why are they not releasing it? Would it not make it that much easier to catch him?


Im curious about the level of security for riding a bus or coachline. How easily can a fake ID be used?


December 09, 2024, 12:27 PM
architect
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Originally posted by Rightwire:
This article indicates it was a tip that led police to him.

https://www.oann.com/newsroom/...-taken-into-custody/
Already reported that the "tip" came from the McDonald's employee that recognized him from published pictures. I'd speculate that it was someone who thought he was "cute."

Slightly off topic and not intended to derail the thread, but with the increasing prevalence of surveillance technology, getting away with public acts of crimes must be quite a challenge. Shades of Hollywood movies in real life. Whether or not this is a good thing overall deserves some thought, but we, as a society, better get used to constant individual observation no matter how innocent our behavior. And, inevitably, it will lead to more and more things becoming illegal due to the ease of picking low hanging fruit.
December 09, 2024, 12:34 PM
Stlhead
I have been providing United Health insurance to my employees and myself for the last 6 or 7 years. They have been the best value and provided the best service of all the options available to me. I may not be happy with the price, but they have done well be us. I do not think that shooting the CEO of a company that you are unhappy with is something that should be encouraged or allowed. If this was some sort of honor killing or grand political statement then the gunman would have stayed to face the music. This is a crime, nothing more.
December 09, 2024, 12:38 PM
downtownv
Man found in Pa. McDonald’s is being questioned in connection to UnitedHealthcare CEO shooting
The man in Altoona is alleged to have a gun similar to the one used in the CEO's murder, according to sources.

Authorities are questioning a man in Altoona, Pa., in connection with the UnitedHealthcare CEO’s fatal shooting that took place outside a Manhattan hotel on Wednesday, according to the Associated Press. The man was taken for questioning in a McDonald’s after a patron tipped authorities, the New York Times reported.

The early-morning killing of Brian Thompson has stumped authorities and captivated the general public as more details of the shooting have come to light. Ammunition used in the shooting had “deny,” “defend,” and “depose” written in permanent marker; a backpack believed to belong to the suspect was found with Monopoly money inside; and the weapon used may have been a “veterinary pistol” used to put down animals without causing loud noise.

That final detail is what drew authorities to Pennsylvania. The man in Altoona is alleged to have a gun similar to the one used in Thompson’s murder, according to various news outlets. The New York Times reported the man being questioned came to the attention of police via tip and presented police with a fake ID allegedly used by the suspected shooter to check into a hostel more than a week before the murder.

To date, authorities believe the shooter acted alone.

The shooter waited for Thompson, who was in town for his company’s annual investor conference, and shot him around 6:45 a.m. Wednesday before fleeing on bike into Central Park. By 7:30 a.m., authorities believe the shooter made it to the George Washington Bridge Bus Station by taxi. The station offers bus routes to Philadelphia, Boston, and Washington, as well as commuter service to New Jersey. New York City police believe the gunman left the city by bus.

New York City Police Commissioner Jessica Tisch called the shooting outside the New York Hilton Midtown a “premeditated, preplanned, targeted attack.” Authorities believe the gunman arrived in the city 10 days before the shooting, in a bus that originated in Atlanta. Police said the suspect would go on to stay in a hostel with a fake ID and pay in cash.

New York City police have released various images of the suspected shooter in his hostel, a taxi, and Starbucks to no avail. A fingerprint found at a Starbucks where the shooter is believed to have bought a water and energy bar has also proven to be a dead end.

The FBI is offering $50,000 for information leading to the suspect’s arrest and conviction, while the NYPD is offering a $10,000 reward.

https://www.inquirer.com/news/...tm_term=News%20Alert


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December 09, 2024, 12:47 PM
rkentm
They have reportedly released the identity of the person in custody as Luigi Mangione and social media is already tearing up a facebook page for a similar looking person of that name.


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December 09, 2024, 12:49 PM
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December 09, 2024, 12:50 PM
parabellum
DID THEY GET THE BOY'S WELROD??
December 09, 2024, 12:54 PM
x0225095
I didn’t hear about the murder weapon … but with that pretty face Little Luigi is going to get a welrod. Repeatedly.


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December 09, 2024, 12:54 PM
radioman
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Originally posted by architect:
Already reported that the "tip" came from the McDonald's employee that recognized him from published pictures. I'd speculate that it was someone who thought he was "cute."



I'll go with 'wants the reward money'


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December 09, 2024, 12:56 PM
kkina
The meedeeyah has been all over the WWII era assassin's weapon that **may** have been used in the incident. I can't wait for the actual pic to be posted.


Welrod by kpkina, on Flickr



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December 09, 2024, 12:57 PM
Gustofer
Welrod? Oh no...it was something MUCH MUCH worse. I heard just this morning that it was an evil, horrific, enemy to all things holy...GHOST GUN!!!11!!


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December 09, 2024, 01:00 PM
parabellum
Well, there go a; the conspiracy theories, and there goes the possibility of his "handlers" Razz murdering the guy to shut him up from blabbing about the intricacies of the conspiracy.

So sorry, but this was a one man show.

And I just love all this horse shit from the NYPD that the "net" was tightening around this guy. They didn't even have his name and, apparently, they did not have his location.

Shit, let the CEO of McDonald's stand up at the press conference and take the credit.

The pistol, a 9mm, was described at the press conference as a ghost gun and the mayor and the NYPD made remarks which would lead the uninformed to believe that the entire pistol was printed on a 3d printer, rather than just the frame and some small components.

I can see us eventually getting to a point where slides and barrels are serialized and controlled, just as frames/receivers are right now.


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December 09, 2024, 01:01 PM
corsair
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..he was found Monday in Pennsylvania with a gun and a suppressor like those used in the homicide, law enforcement officials briefed on the situation tell CNN.

A 'smart' killer would've disposed of the weapon already....
December 09, 2024, 01:06 PM
P220 Smudge
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Originally posted by parabellum:
The pistol, a 9mm, was described at the press conference as a ghost gun and the mayor and the NYPD made remarks which would lead the uninformed to believe that the entire pistol was printed on a 3d printer, rather than just the frame and some small components.


In all likelihood, the suppressor was as well.


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December 09, 2024, 01:23 PM
trapper189
There’s a picture that looks like the shooter in this article from 2016:

Gilman Valedictorian Luigi Mangione
Luigi Mangione, who was valedictorian of Gilman’s graduating class this year, based the speech he delivered at graduation around a similar theme: maintaining tradition while also pioneering innovations.

Mangione felt that the environment at Gilman fostered his ability to excel academically. “The teachers at Gilman influenced me especially,” he wrote in an email, adding that they encouraged less of a desire to achieve high grades in his classes and instead encouraged “more of an excitement to explore academic topics outside of the classroom.”

Like Sands, his favorite class in high school was biology (though his favorite changed from year to year), and he plans to pursue a dual degree in artificial intelligence at University of Pennsylvania. The track includes a degree in computer science and cognitive science, and though Mangione thinks his path may change, he is sure he will be studying engineering in some capacity.

People magazine says his manifesto was 3 pages and that he may have a BS and MS in computer science from U-Penn: Link.