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Kind of a dumb move to base so much of your power production on something as fickle as the wind:

Germany Wind Power Firms Face Millions In Losses As Wind Speed Drops To 50-Year Low

I read recently that Germans on average pay electric prices 4 TIMES higher than Americans. This is just not sustainable and when their economy crashes it's gonna take down all of Europe as they have been the anchor since the end of WWII. Eek


 
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I googled it. They had 87 nuke plants, now zero. Fuck them


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Germany shut down its final three nuclear reactors last April, despite warnings that it would cause more fossil fuel to be burned. Last year, a report from Berlin's own climate agency said the country was likely to miss its target of cutting greenhouse emissions by 65 percent by 2030.


https://www.politico.eu/articl...power-plants-energy/



 
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That blows....
 
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The level of stupidity of those in authority just seems unfathomable.




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The level of stupidity of those in authority just seems unfathomable.
Perhaps, but predictable. Razz


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The level of stupidity of those in authority just seems unfathomable.


It's not stupidity it's all deliberate and intentional to drive up the cost of energy.
 
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I’m in planning stages for my rural land and I’m definitely adding wind power via 1 windmill. But primary is solar so the windmill is auxiliary only. It should never be primary. For a family or residence, you knock this all out 100% off grid with solar, wind, battery storage, and a generator for extreme outage situations where UV is minimal and no wind. But for commercial use, wind doesn’t cut the mustard alone. Should be auxiliary. Idiots.



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Maybe their potato harvest will fail this winter.


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Much of these renewables are propped up with subsidies, tax breaks and mandates.

I have no problem if things make sense. Also, many of these mandates are passed by politicians with little experience dealing with energy.
 
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Also, many of these mandates are passed by politicians with little experience dealing with energy.

I think a lot of the mandates are passed by politicians looking to pad their pockets.



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The level of stupidity of those in authority just seems unfathomable.


Be happy about the stupidity of the Germans. Think about the benefits for the USA. More alternative energy means less exports of fossil energy from the USA. That in turn means more energy for the USA. This in turn leads to an even bigger trade deficit with Germany and will probably lead to an increase in tariffs for Germany, which according to well informed sources will be paid by Germans. So, you get more energy for yourself and also their money. Germany is playing 3D chess against itself and losing to those who understand 4D chess. Ingenious.
 
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I googled it. They had 87 nuke plants, now zero. Fuck them

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Germany shut down its final three nuclear reactors last April, despite warnings that it would cause more fossil fuel to be burned. Last year, a report from Berlin's own climate agency said the country was likely to miss its target of cutting greenhouse emissions by 65 percent by 2030.


Yes, exactly. Fuck them. They did this to themselves.



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Maybe hundreds or thousands of wind turbines in an area act to slow wind currents.


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Germany has to burn coal to make up for the nukes. My understanding is much of it is soft brown coal, which is the most polluting stuff there is. That's largely what made East Germany the pollution king of the planet.


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Germany has to burn coal to make up for the nukes. My understanding is much of it is soft brown coal, which is the most polluting stuff there is. That's largely what made East Germany the pollution king of the planet.


This is proof of something I really don't understand. Individually, humans can be really intelligent. Ordinary individuals do great things. But en masse? The larger the group the stupider we get! Germany, and indeed much of Europe and the UK, has utterly destroyed their future with green and immigrant policies. This outcome was totally predictable 25 years ago, and nobody would have supported the policies if they'd known the outcome.

People just fail to think when in a group.
 
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The screwed up policies make people more dependent on government.

Government policies can't raise people up but it can force them down to equality at the lowest common denominator.


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German politicians succumbed to propaganda from the "greens" and the vast number of gullible people that believe the "green" propaganda.

I am willing to bet that Putin and possibly China are funding the "greens" behind a lot of the propaganda. Putin benefits from dependence on oil and gas when the wind and solar don't work. China benefits from destabilizing the west.
 
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Maybe hundreds or thousands of wind turbines in an area act to slow wind currents.



I am going to see the data on this.

Iowa has 6000 , up and running
And people are still bitching about the 35 m.p.h. wind on a weekly basis.


You gotta remember,
Too much wind shuts them down.

So no significant turbulence abatement.





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It took 80 years, but Germany seems well on its way to fulfilling the Morgenthau Plan. And doing it to themselves.
 
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I am willing to bet that Putin and possibly China are funding the "greens" behind a lot of the propaganda.


You're going to have to give awfully good odds if you expect someone to take the bet.

It would be the best investment the Russian and Chinese ever made.


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