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Originally posted by Mars_Attacks:

Run away at the first sign of a shitbag.

I agree Marzy, getting away from that situation is the correct action. Do not engage, it is not worth it and chances are it only makes matters worse.

Best thing you can do is get yourself out of that situation as quickly as possible.

Asshole drivers are far too common these days, it’s a plague in my opinion. Get those dash cameras installed and call 911.

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Originally posted by P220 Smudge:

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Originally posted by Rick Lee:
Had I driven straight home and guy parked in front of my house or, God forbid, blocked me in at my driveway or garage, I'd have certainly walked out with my holstered gun in hand at my side and asked, "Can I help you?"

I would have done none of those things, and in fact, did panic and take a random turn when I realized the road rager was going to follow me home, and it's the only time in over a decade carrying where I not only thought seriously about drawing, but made the decision that it needed to happen. I just didn't know the area well enough yet and made the worst turn I could have possibly made of all choices and wound up in a place I couldn't get out of, and yes, we were right in front of cameras. Road rager flat didn't care about that and had the bat in right hand and left was already opening the door when I made everything stop. I'll go so far as to say I hope to God nobody ever looked at that footage.

Everything step in what I quoted is adding unnecessary risk to a situation in which people get killed every year. Sometimes, there's just no easy answers, but since you had your phone in hand, I'd suggest that calling 911 would've been a solid move. Dispatch could have coordinated you driving past a unit waiting for the guy.

How did you stop the guy? Defensive display or did you actually shoot him?

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Originally posted by ScreamingCockatoo:
Go buy a dash cam with front and rear cameras. Today.

I now have one with 4.


There's no such thing as a "brake check" only aircraft do this before departing the ramp.
He attempted to cause you to strike him which is aggressive driving. In Georgia it's a reckless driving ticket.

Again, get a dash camera.

He said he had a dash cam, just not installed yet.

Front and rear dash cams are installed now. I just need to learn how to save stuff or make sure it doesn't record over once I have something on there I don't want to lose.

I got the GUGTTR 4K.

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Originally posted by Rick Lee:
Front and rear dash cams are installed now. I just need to learn how to save stuff or make sure it doesn't record over once I have something on there I don't want to lose.

I got the GUGTTR 4K.

With a dashcam, there's usually a button that causes it to save the last minute or so in a special location. It generally doesn't overwrite video for at least a day or two.

Another important part is to practice finding a specific video from the dashcam and showing it to someone like the police either on the dashcam or your phone.

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Originally posted by selogic:

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Originally posted by ScreamingCockatoo


There's no such thing as a "brake check" only aircraft do this before departing the ramp.
He attempted to cause you to strike him which is aggressive driving. In Georgia it's a reckless driving ticket.

The term " brake check " is commonly used and the rest of the world knows what it means .

Then call it what it is. Aggressive reckless driving to attempt bodily harm.

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Originally posted by Rick Lee:
Front and rear dash cams are installed now. I just need to learn how to save stuff or make sure it doesn't record over once I have something on there I don't want to lose.

I got the GUGTTR 4K.

It'll have a lock button.
And they record clips for a LONG time.

A friend in a road rage incident learned this the HARD way:

The first person to call 911 is the COMPLAINANT
The other party is the SUSPECT

Be the FIRST one.

I just drove over to that police precinct that's nearest my house. I sure am glad I didn't go there when thus nutbag was following me. The place had not a single vehicle in the lot. Door was locked, no one at the front desk and I gave up with the callbox after a few min. on hold. I guess they have cameras around there, but nothing else would have stopped that guy from thinking he'd found the perfect, secluded place to go hands on.

I've had a similar experience and actually had a dashcam to record the encounter. Had this happened in Ohio I could have filed a complaint and taken him to court with enough evidence to cost him his license. Bad news is I now live in Michigan and that is not an option. However did take some rather pertinent still to the local PD and showed them to a lieutenant there. The best shot was the one where it went into the oncoming traffic lane at a stop light and ran the traffic light. The next shot showed him doing a brake check after that light with his license plate crystal clear. I was told that the PD for that particular road rager's residence would be contacted with a request they have a talk with that driver. As for that started this, he was texting at a red light so when it changed I tapped my horn. Which got me the finger. What flat out threw him into a rage was that I would use the #2 lane to pass him. Then he'd make like he was going to ram me and I'd just drop it into second and vanish on him. It's one really sweet thing about the Fiesta ST, in second gear it is extremely quick.

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Originally posted by ScreamingCockatoo:

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Originally posted by selogic:

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Originally posted by ScreamingCockatoo


There's no such thing as a "brake check" only aircraft do this before departing the ramp.
He attempted to cause you to strike him which is aggressive driving. In Georgia it's a reckless driving ticket.

The term " brake check " is commonly used and the rest of the world knows what it means .

Then call it what it is. Aggressive reckless driving to attempt bodily harm.

Yeah , since that flows so much better in a conversation .

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Originally posted by Rick Lee:
How did you stop the guy? Defensive display or did you actually shoot him?

Drew it and held it up in profile view in the windshield and watched the road rager look at it, then slapped it down on the dashboard and put both hands back on the steering wheel, only taking them off to point "back the way you came." Legally, I suppose that is technically brandishing, but I didn't want to be accused of, or filmed pointing it or "waving it around." It was sitting in such a way that it was going to be in hand and on target faster than Babe Ruth could get to me.

At a red light, I watched in my rearview as the driver reached behind the passenger seat and pulled the ball bat from the back seat and tuck it down between right leg and center console. The intent was clear.

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Originally posted by P220 Smudge:

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Originally posted by Rick Lee:
How did you stop the guy? Defensive display or did you actually shoot him?

Drew it and held it up in profile view in the windshield and watched the road rager look at it, then slapped it down on the dashboard and put both hands back on the steering wheel, only taking them off to point "back the way you came." Legally, I suppose that is technically brandishing, but I didn't want to be accused of, or filmed pointing it or "waving it around." It was sitting in such a way that it was going to be in hand and on target faster than Babe Ruth could get to me.

At a red light, I watched in my rearview as the driver reached behind the passenger seat and pulled the ball bat from the back seat and tuck it down between right leg and center console. The intent was clear.

Holy cow. It seems to me you handled that really well, pretty impressive simlutaneous SD with an effective deescalation offer to the perp, who brought all of this on himself. I read an article once implying that sometimes you have no choice but to do the most effective thing to save your life and deescalate, even if the law doesn't necessarily cover your ass technically. When the shit hits the fan you gotta do what is needed to survive. Good on ya.

Turn about is fair play

I pulled this off Tabitha's camera. I forgot the sun was absolutely blinding as we were coming back from SC's house and it was hard enough just to drive as it was, much less go 100MPH like the inbreds with their gigantic trucks seem to want to go. Tabs was wondering what the hell was going on and told me to beat it out of there, he's insane.

I have the whole video of at a minimum of 5 minutes of just driving with zero traffic. He came out of nowhere.

I just ran away. No confrontation, just ran away. He pursued, but couldn't catch the little Juke in the curves and gave up.

Mars, are you advocating for racing down a winding one-lane road?

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Originally posted by wrightd:
When the shit hits the fan you gotta do what is needed to survive. Good on ya.

Thanks, but I regret that I didn't think clearly enough to keep it from getting that far. I'm really grateful it progressed no further.

Are you advocating for a gunfight?

I think that you should've led him on a high-speed pursuit for two hours, through Manhattan.

Don't just drive to the nearest police station...if it's a smaller town, there might not be anybody there, especially at night. Call 911 and do what dispatch tells you...which likely will include driving to the PD, but at least they'll be able to let officers know where you're at and that you're coming.