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These questions are for LEO. If you're not, or never have been, please don't answer what you think it might be. For LEO, feel free to copy past the questions in your response if that's easier. The questions 1) You stop a vehicle and arrest the driver and have to search the vehicle. On average, what % fall in these categories? a) Wow, this must be new or a rental its spotless - % b) This is pretty clean, wish my cruiser looked like this - % c) This looks like my son/daughter's car - % d) Man, it's going to take me an hour to dig through this mess - % e) I'm calling the rookie to do this one - % 2) What is the worst vehicle you've ever searched and why? 3) What is the most unexpected or crazy thing you've found in a vehicle search? Pronoun: His Royal Highness and benevolent Majesty of all he surveys 343 - Never Forget Its better to be Pavlov's dog than Schrodinger's cat There are three types of mistakes; Those you learn from, those you suffer from, and those you don't survive. | ||
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| Do No Harm, Do Know Harm |
Knowing what one is talking about is widely admired but not strictly required here. Although sometimes distracting, there is often a certain entertainment value to this easy standard. -JALLEN "All I need is a WAR ON DRUGS reference and I got myself a police thread BINGO." -jljones | |||
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Back in about '91 or '92, I was impounding an old Ford pickup truck left abandoned on the side of the road. I requested a wrecker and began my impound inventory of the vehicle. The vehicle was full of junk so it took me a while. I finally got to the area behind the seat, which was difficult to get to. I blindly grabbed things, and I grabbed onto what appeared to be the spongy handle to crutches...but when I actually held it and noticed what it was, I was SHOCKED!!! It was DILDO!!!! YES, a DILDO!!! I was so grossed out, but at least I was able to leave there with an experience which taught me to never blindly search anything again. Over the years, I searched bicycles to 18 wheelers to mobile homes on the side of the highway. Experience, luck and stick-to-itness will lead to some really interesting things. Retired Texas Lawman | |||
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Chongo, was the loss of 'search incident to arrest' due to a court decision or a policy change? OP, sorry for the drift. _____________________________ 'I'm pretty fly for a white guy'. | |||
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Not Chongo obviously, but it was Arizona v Gant. US Supreme Court decision in 2009. | |||
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Interesting. Thanks. _____________________________ 'I'm pretty fly for a white guy'. | |||
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Search incident to arrest of a vehicle was not lost per se. It was specifically limited which it had not been prior to. One still has search incident to arrest of the vehicle based upon articulation of what you are searching for and how it is related to the arrest. Prior to the Gant decision one would search every car with the thought in the officers head they are searching for evidence of a/the crime. Which is the heart of the Gant decision anyway. In the Gant deicision I am pretty sure when the officer was asked why he searched his response was simply “because we can.” With no further explanation or articulation of what he was searching for and why. Had he articulated what he was searching for, expected to find, and why, I presume the decision would have not ruled in favor of Gant. But to answer the question 70% of vehicles are just meh, not really that bad. 15% are pretty rough, and 5% are just Ohh Lord. Worst car I ever searched was a 1 eyed prostitues vehicle that she worked out of. Popped open the back of a van to find a sex dungeon once. Chains, cage, swing, all sorts of equipment that my imagination would not even be able to figure out what they would do with it in that setting. That fella was actually the first guy who I ever fought about 6 or so years before when I went to arrest him for sodomy that he was in the act of committing. ———————————————— The world's not perfect, but it's not that bad. If we got each other, and that's all we have. I will be your brother, and I'll hold your hand. You should know I'll be there for you! | |||
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Ive seen THOUSANDS of roaches crawling over every square inch of the interior. And this car was not abandoned in the woods, it was the daily driver of the owner! ______________________________________________________ Often times a very small man can cast a very large shadow | |||
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I did a traffic stop on a vehicle with two occupants very early on in my career, probably right after I was released from my FTO. We used to impound a lot back then for driver license violations so I requested a wrecker since he nor his buddy had a DL. After I cited the driver, I sent him and his passenger on their merry way on foot after advising them the vehicle's impound location. I then did my vehicle impound inventory where I found a pretty good size baggy of marihuana in a 5 gallon paint bucket on the vehicle's rear floorboard. Of course, I didn't make that mistake again after that learning experience. Even though they didn't go to jail that day for the possession, they were eventually arrested on the warrants I put out on them some time in the future. Retired Texas Lawman | |||
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