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Two walk away unhurt after plane crash in South Knoxville neighborhood - and they look to be pretty lucky!
December 19, 2017, 02:59 PM
BamaJeepsterTwo walk away unhurt after plane crash in South Knoxville neighborhood - and they look to be pretty lucky!
http://www.knoxnews.com/story/...t&utm_medium=twitter
Address where it crashed:
https://www.google.com/maps/pl...682364!4d-83.8998046
“Facts are stubborn things; and whatever may be our wishes, our inclinations, or the dictates of our passions, they cannot alter the state of facts and evidence.”
- John Adams December 19, 2017, 03:19 PM
Sig2340Is that a dead Piper Aztec?
ETA: Yes. N40395.
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December 19, 2017, 03:20 PM
StlheadThat looks like it will buff right out.
December 19, 2017, 03:27 PM
RHINOWSOProlly another GA idiot who experienced ‘engine trouble’ aka running out of motherfucking AVGAS again.

Glad nobody was seriously injured but stupid should hurt.
December 19, 2017, 03:46 PM
mcrimmWalk Away = Good Landing
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V-Tailquote:
Originally posted by mcrimm:
Walk Away = Good Landing
Reusable Airplane = Excellent Landing
הרחפת שלי מלאה בצלופחים December 19, 2017, 04:20 PM
sns3guppyquote:
Originally posted by RHINOWSO:
Prolly another GA idiot who experienced ‘engine trouble’ aka running out of motherfucking AVGAS again.

Glad nobody was seriously injured but stupid should hurt.
Other than the lack of fire, what might suggest this to you?
December 19, 2017, 04:25 PM
V-Tailquote:
Originally posted by RHINOWSO:
Prolly another GA idiot who experienced ‘engine trouble’ aka running out of motherfucking AVGAS again.

Glad nobody was seriously injured but stupid should hurt.
Read the description in the linked article. Does not sound to me like fuel exhaustion. Maybe engine failure? I believe that model has 250 hp (maybe 260) each side. Not a lot of excess thrust there to climb with, if only one of them is working.
הרחפת שלי מלאה בצלופחים December 19, 2017, 04:36 PM
mark_aone witness stated that the plane was "finna go down"
They then listened to their scanner apps...
I'm probably leaping to conclusions.
December 19, 2017, 05:07 PM
Russ59Man, that's a sweet Mazda wagon doubling as landing gear.

P229
December 19, 2017, 05:17 PM
Otto Pilotquote:
Originally posted by V-Tail:
quote:
Originally posted by mcrimm:
Walk Away = Good Landing
Reusable Airplane = Excellent Landing
Not being on CNN or YouTube = Perfect Landing!
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December 19, 2017, 05:24 PM
RHINOWSOquote:
Originally posted by sns3guppy:
quote:
Originally posted by RHINOWSO:
Prolly another GA idiot who experienced ‘engine trouble’ aka running out of motherfucking AVGAS again.

Glad nobody was seriously injured but stupid should hurt.
Other than the lack of fire, what might suggest this to you?
Just a WAG. I didn't know that it was a twin (not really into GA trivia), then again from the photos you can't even tell it had motors at all.
I'm sure the NTSB / FAA will let us know in 12-15 months.

December 19, 2017, 07:35 PM
zoom6zoomquote:
Originally posted by Russ59:
Man, that's a sweet Mazda wagon doubling as landing gear.
Yeah, they didn't make all that many of them.
I have my own style of humor. I call it Snarkasm. December 19, 2017, 09:49 PM
aileron[/QUOTE]Read the description in the linked article. Does not sound to me like fuel exhaustion. Maybe engine failure? I believe that model has 250 hp (maybe 260) each side. Not a lot of excess thrust there to climb with, if only one of them is working.[/QUOTE]
I took my ME checkride in an Aztec like this after some dolt landed the Apache I'd been training in with the gear up. The PA23-250 did okay on one engine **if** you got the dead engine squared away pronto... and it wasn't too hot out.
December 19, 2017, 09:54 PM
jimmy123xA Beechcraft 76 lost an engine on take off and hit the roof of a house about 9 houses away from mine and then landed in the backyard and everyone walked away. Supposedly they're VERY underpowered and can't fly on one engine or barely and not unless they have altitude.....this one sounds a little underpowered also, but not as bad as the Beechcraft 76 which had an instructor and 2 students in the plane.
December 19, 2017, 10:17 PM
JALLENI did my ME in a Duchess. Single engine performance is essentially none.
At Montgomery Field, there was a freeway at the departure end of the runway, and on the other side of the freeway, a shopping area, including an In and Out Burger.
On my check ride, the examiner had me figure out, using the current ATIS, weight and balance, how long it would take to get to 50’ if an engine were to quit at gear up.
I believe we figured we would be going through the drive thru at In and Out Burger in that unhappy event. IOW, for all intents and purposes, you had to treat it like SE in those situation.
Luckily, I have enough willpower to control the driving ambition that rages within me.
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rscalzoquote:
The plane contained about 45 gallons of fuel when it crashed
December 19, 2017, 10:28 PM
rscalzoI owned a 68 C177. The 150hp on a hot day was a lot of fun. Going out of as small airport in northern NJ had a hill at the departure end that had about the same profile as the rate of climb on the Cardinale. Always made it fun seeing a rate of climb and not really appearing to gain altitude for some time.
December 19, 2017, 10:28 PM
jimmy123xquote:
Originally posted by JALLEN:
I did my ME in a Duchess. Single engine performance is essentially none.
At Montgomery Field, there was a freeway at the departure end of the runway, and on the other side of the freeway, a shopping area, including an In and Out Burger.
On my check ride, the examiner had me figure out, using the current ATIS, weight and balance, how long it would take to get to 50’ if an engine were to quit at gear up.
I believe we figured we would be going through the drive thru at In and Out Burger in that unhappy event. IOW, for all intents and purposes, you had to treat it like SE in those situation.
And that's exactly what happened. They lost engine on take off and hit the roof of a house 1/4 mile from the airport, roof and plane caught fire and plane ended up in the backyard and all 3 people walked away. Kind of sobering when it's less than 9 houses away. And, then a boat blows up in the backyard of the house 4 houses away (in between) like 2 months later.
http://www.sun-sentinel.com/lo...-20160425-story.htmlDecember 20, 2017, 04:07 AM
4MUL8RMy hometown. Airport is on the river. No areas to land around there but in the water. Hard to tell from the images but to crash on the north side of the river they may have been doing touch and go training. Take off to the west, turn around, fly east, turn and land.
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