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Caribou gorn
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You also need to know what things taste like in order to say something tastes like it. Do you know what baking spices taste like? Dried apricots? Rye bread? Dates or figs? Tobacco leaves?

All of this stuff is very subtle and up for interpretation. When a publication says we detect hints of x, y, z, etc. it's probably multiple people's opinions. Typically, I don't think one guy tastes a bourbon and spouts off 8-10 flavors. Start looking for the prevailing flavors (vanilla, caramel, cinnamon, pepper) and then one you know this you can begin noticing the subtler flavors.

Also, if you're drinking cheaper bourbon, those are typically younger and more blended and watered down. They don't have as much complexity from the oak because they weren't in it for as long and they also don't last as long on the palate giving you time to taste the different flavors.



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It may take longer to learn to use those hoity-toity descriptions than to notice the flavors.

Like someone else, I have never tasted a gooseberry, so while maybe I can taste that flavor, I wouldn't know to call it a gooseberry.

Hang out with other whisky snobs, so you can learn what flavor goes with what fancy term.

Like someone said, though - most of us know what vanilla, pepper, smoky, honey, and other common comparisons taste like.




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It would be interesting to study how subjective taste might be. I would guess other factors might be at play besides the actual taste of the beverage. I love language and I'm not discouraging this sort of thing...I've read taste descriptions that were lyrical.
 
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Originally posted by dsiets:
And remember, your palate is at it's best in the morning. Wink Big Grin

I don't know about whiskey distillers but I remember reading about Steve Dresler, head brewer(retired?) at Sierra Nevada describing his day and he mentioned tasting the beer in the morning. Pretty rough job. Cool


You can’t drink all day if you don’t start in the morning. Big Grin




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Originally posted by x0225095:
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Originally posted by Lefty Sig:
The verbosity of alcohol reviewers is just silly. I swear they just make up all the fake tastes that don't actually exist just to sound sophisticated.


Boy, I bet you’re a lot of fun at art museums and birthday parties.

Indeed, you were so sophisticatedly unsophisticated stating your opinion in your first sentence that I didn’t even need to read the rest of it. You mean to say that just because you can’t smell or taste anything means that the rest of us who can smell smells and taste tastes are making it up??

Yeah, nice take. Don’t forget to clean your Hi-point.



If you read the rest of it you might understand better. I can certainly taste the difference between whiskies and their quality, and have introduced people to things like Red Breast and Middleton much to their amazement. I know what I like, and what is crap. For big names, I know the difference between JW Red, Black, and Blue - it's not hard to tell the difference between them.

My point was the silliness of the descriptions and the overuse of hyperbole. It's like audiophiles describing the differences they perceive on different amps or speaker calbles, or art geeks waxing on about the depth of meaning of some piece of modern art. It's pretentious, and usually the more they say the more they reveal that they are just talking to try to sound impressive.

Like this posted by SW_Sig:

******

AROMA
Oaky notes balanced with dark berries and molasses

TASTE
Complex blend of caramel, dried fruit, and oak with back notes of spice and a rounded mouthfeel

FINISH
Lingering dried fruit with a hint of sweetness and rye spice

******

It's like they compete to add more and more of these flowery comparisons, and outdo each other with verbosity. Yes I understand it's hard to put the taste of a whiskey into words because there is an aspect to how it feels when you drink it, not just its taste and smell. So it's best to just try for yourself and learn. I'd rather describe whiskies relative to other whiskies that are benchmarks. That makes a lot more sense.

I equate this to the "journalist" that fired an HK MR556 at a range and made an idiot of himself describing the experience like he fired a short barrel .50 BMG one-handed with no ear protection. Yeah, he fired a 5.56 rifle that a child can easily fire and keep under control, not a howitzer.

I also equate it to corporate consultant speak where they have to drop every singles stupid buzzword into everything.

And I don't have a Hi-Point.
 
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I sprung for a high end bourbon the other day. It was a bottle of Bullet, it was about 36 37 dollars. After several shots I could tell the difference between it and Old Grandad. Bullet mixes well with Diet Coke. Smile
 
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I have no nose for flavors. But, I can detect spice or smooth, that sort of thing. I know when a bourbon has a rye component, but other than that, it is more of a smooth vs harsh, mellow vs. bold, really basic things.

I wish I could smell.


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Originally posted by Lefty Sig:
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Originally posted by x0225095:
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Originally posted by Lefty Sig:
The verbosity of alcohol reviewers is just silly. I swear they just make up all the fake tastes that don't actually exist just to sound sophisticated.


Boy, I bet you’re a lot of fun at art museums and birthday parties.

Indeed, you were so sophisticatedly unsophisticated stating your opinion in your first sentence that I didn’t even need to read the rest of it. You mean to say that just because you can’t smell or taste anything means that the rest of us who can smell smells and taste tastes are making it up??

Yeah, nice take. Don’t forget to clean your Hi-point.



If you read the rest of it you might understand better. I can certainly taste the difference between whiskies and their quality, and have introduced people to things like Red Breast and Middleton much to their amazement. I know what I like, and what is crap. For big names, I know the difference between JW Red, Black, and Blue - it's not hard to tell the difference between them.

My point was the silliness of the descriptions and the overuse of hyperbole. It's like audiophiles describing the differences they perceive on different amps or speaker calbles, or art geeks waxing on about the depth of meaning of some piece of modern art. It's pretentious, and usually the more they say the more they reveal that they are just talking to try to sound impressive.

Like this posted by SW_Sig:

******

AROMA
Oaky notes balanced with dark berries and molasses

TASTE
Complex blend of caramel, dried fruit, and oak with back notes of spice and a rounded mouthfeel

FINISH
Lingering dried fruit with a hint of sweetness and rye spice

******

It's like they compete to add more and more of these flowery comparisons, and outdo each other with verbosity. Yes I understand it's hard to put the taste of a whiskey into words because there is an aspect to how it feels when you drink it, not just its taste and smell. So it's best to just try for yourself and learn. I'd rather describe whiskies relative to other whiskies that are benchmarks. That makes a lot more sense.

I equate this to the "journalist" that fired an HK MR556 at a range and made an idiot of himself describing the experience like he fired a short barrel .50 BMG one-handed with no ear protection. Yeah, he fired a 5.56 rifle that a child can easily fire and keep under control, not a howitzer.

I also equate it to corporate consultant speak where they have to drop every singles stupid buzzword into everything.

And I don't have a Hi-Point.


Lefty, I apologize for being harsh with you and your post. Thank you for the explanation. I owe you a glass of my favorite should we ever meet.


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Lefty, I apologize for being harsh with you and your post. Thank you for the explanation. I owe you a glass of my favorite should we ever meet.


Thanks, appreciate it.
 
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