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April 07, 2017, 04:59 PM
Pipe Smoker
Gorsuch hearing
quote:
Originally posted by jhe888:
If for no other reason, this is a good reason to be glad Trump was elected. Gorsuch should be on the court long after the Donald is dead and gone.

Congratulations to Justice Gorsuch.

Amen. Very glad that it's sealed in steel.



Serious about crackers.
April 07, 2017, 05:02 PM
darthfuster




You’re a lying dog-faced pony soldier
April 07, 2017, 05:06 PM
6guns
quote:
Originally posted by toms:
I hope Judge Gorsuch has both long life and memory.

And that he will hold a grudge over what he has been put through by the commie leftists!


This is a good point. He saw first hand how ridiculous they are.




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April 07, 2017, 05:08 PM
JALLEN
quote:
Originally posted by toms:
I hope Judge Gorsuch has both long life and memory.

And that he will hold a grudge over what he has been put through by the commie leftists!


If he does, they picked the wrong guy.




Luckily, I have enough willpower to control the driving ambition that rages within me.

When you had the votes, we did things your way. Now, we have the votes and you will be doing things our way. This lesson in political reality from Lyndon B. Johnson

"Some things are apparent. Where government moves in, community retreats, civil society disintegrates and our ability to control our own destiny atrophies. The result is: families under siege; war in the streets; unapologetic expropriation of property; the precipitous decline of the rule of law; the rapid rise of corruption; the loss of civility and the triumph of deceit. The result is a debased, debauched culture which finds moral depravity entertaining and virtue contemptible." - Justice Janice Rogers Brown
April 07, 2017, 05:22 PM
JALLEN
Any word on what was done with the appointment of Ron Rosenstein to be Deputy Attorney General?

This is super critical with the A/G having recused himself on the Russian interference with election investigation. It is being run now by a Obama holdover, Acting Deputy A/G Dana Boente.




Luckily, I have enough willpower to control the driving ambition that rages within me.

When you had the votes, we did things your way. Now, we have the votes and you will be doing things our way. This lesson in political reality from Lyndon B. Johnson

"Some things are apparent. Where government moves in, community retreats, civil society disintegrates and our ability to control our own destiny atrophies. The result is: families under siege; war in the streets; unapologetic expropriation of property; the precipitous decline of the rule of law; the rapid rise of corruption; the loss of civility and the triumph of deceit. The result is a debased, debauched culture which finds moral depravity entertaining and virtue contemptible." - Justice Janice Rogers Brown
April 07, 2017, 05:24 PM
XinTX
quote:
Originally posted by flashguy:
Although I don't think this is the case, Republican Presidents have been burned by their Supreme Court Justice appointees before. Perhaps we should hold off rejoicing until Justice Gorsuch actually makes his first decisions.

flashguy


True. But we KNOW that POSHitlary would have appointed Che Guevara if she could dig him up. She and her spawn both said that their objective was to overturn the 2nd Amendment. And for her, I'm sure that would just be the start. So even IF Gorsuch turns out to be another Kennedy, he'll be miles better than anyone POSHitlary would have nominated.


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April 07, 2017, 05:27 PM
jhe888
quote:
Originally posted by JALLEN:
quote:
Originally posted by toms:
I hope Judge Gorsuch has both long life and memory.

And that he will hold a grudge over what he has been put through by the commie leftists!


If he does, they picked the wrong guy.


JAllen is right. Judges don't make decisions that way. And they shouldn't.




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April 07, 2017, 08:01 PM
c1steve
quote:
Originally posted by jhe888:
quote:
Originally posted by JALLEN:
quote:
Originally posted by toms:
I hope Judge Gorsuch has both long life and memory.

And that he will hold a grudge over what he has been put through by the commie leftists!


If he does, they picked the wrong guy.


JAllen is right. Judges don't make decisions that way. And they shouldn't.


That is the kind of thing that Kathleen Kane would do, and now she is reaping the rewards of being vindictive.


-c1steve
April 07, 2017, 11:58 PM
sdy
quote:
Any word on what was done with the appointment of Ron Rosenstein to be Deputy Attorney General?


JALLEN,

I am beginning to think I had a senior moment when I posted that McConnell immediately brought up Rosenstein after the Gorsuch vote.

That is what I thought I heard on CSPAN, but now I can't find a single thing about it.

http://www.baltimoresun.com/ne...-20170403-story.html

The Senate Judiciary Committee voted Monday (3 Apr) to advance the nomination of Maryland U.S. Attorney Rod J. Rosenstein to serve as the No. 2 official at the Justice Department by a wide, bipartisan margin.

Rosenstein was approved 19-1 by the committee and now moves to the full Senate. The timing of the Senate vote is not clear.

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sorry for the confusion
April 08, 2017, 02:30 AM
JALLEN
quote:
Originally posted by sdy:
quote:
Any word on what was done with the appointment of Ron Rosenstein to be Deputy Attorney General?


JALLEN,

I am beginning to think I had a senior moment when I posted that McConnell immediately brought up Rosenstein after the Gorsuch vote.

That is what I thought I heard on CSPAN, but now I can't find a single thing about it.

http://www.baltimoresun.com/ne...-20170403-story.html

The Senate Judiciary Committee voted Monday (3 Apr) to advance the nomination of Maryland U.S. Attorney Rod J. Rosenstein to serve as the No. 2 official at the Justice Department by a wide, bipartisan margin.

Rosenstein was approved 19-1 by the committee and now moves to the full Senate. The timing of the Senate vote is not clear.

*************
sorry for the confusion


No need. We both heard it.

There was a motion offered by McConnell to end debate and vote on the nomination on April 24, 2017, passed unanimous consent.

https://www.congress.gov/nomination/115th-congress/56

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Luckily, I have enough willpower to control the driving ambition that rages within me.

When you had the votes, we did things your way. Now, we have the votes and you will be doing things our way. This lesson in political reality from Lyndon B. Johnson

"Some things are apparent. Where government moves in, community retreats, civil society disintegrates and our ability to control our own destiny atrophies. The result is: families under siege; war in the streets; unapologetic expropriation of property; the precipitous decline of the rule of law; the rapid rise of corruption; the loss of civility and the triumph of deceit. The result is a debased, debauched culture which finds moral depravity entertaining and virtue contemptible." - Justice Janice Rogers Brown
April 08, 2017, 07:47 AM
sdy
Here is a report I hope comes true.
Democrats seem intent on committing mass political suicide.

https://townhall.com/tipsheet/...irm-gorsuch-n2310457

The Women's March is none too pleased that President Donald Trump's nominee for the Supreme Court, Neil Gorsuch, was confirmed on Friday morning in a (slightly) bipartisan vote of 54-45.

They've decided that they'll be "coming for" Sens. Joe Manchin (D-WV), Joe Donnelly (D-IN), and Heidi Heitkamp (D-ND) because they voted for Gorsuch.

Considering that Indiana, North Dakota, and West Virginia all voted for Donald Trump by over 20-point margins, it seems rather silly to "go after" the seats of three elected officials in the primary process when in all likelihood a more liberal candidate would be demolished in the general by a Republican. It's as if they've never heard the saying "don't let the perfect be the enemy of the good."

But, clearly, bipartisanship is dead in the eyes of the extreme left. An elected official is in office to represent his or her constituents, not to carry out the goals of a party . This kind of ideological-purity-or-bust rhetoric will do nothing to help bridge the divide currently in Congress, and it's only going to result in further division and further gridlock

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actually it will help to "bridge the divide currently in Congress" because there will be less Democrats.
April 08, 2017, 08:28 AM
bigdeal
quote:
Originally posted by JALLEN:
quote:
Originally posted by toms:
I hope Judge Gorsuch has both long life and memory.

And that he will hold a grudge over what he has been put through by the commie leftists!


If he does, they picked the wrong guy.
^^^This. The man I want to see on the court is the man of character we saw interviewed by those losers in the senate.


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April 08, 2017, 08:30 AM
JALLEN
This has been one of the distinguishing characteristics of those conservatives who refrain from tilting at windmills, especially when the windmills tilt back, and are rewarded for their discretion by insults, cries of cowardice, no guts and other parts from purist conservatives who want to fight everyday, every hill, to the last man.




Luckily, I have enough willpower to control the driving ambition that rages within me.

When you had the votes, we did things your way. Now, we have the votes and you will be doing things our way. This lesson in political reality from Lyndon B. Johnson

"Some things are apparent. Where government moves in, community retreats, civil society disintegrates and our ability to control our own destiny atrophies. The result is: families under siege; war in the streets; unapologetic expropriation of property; the precipitous decline of the rule of law; the rapid rise of corruption; the loss of civility and the triumph of deceit. The result is a debased, debauched culture which finds moral depravity entertaining and virtue contemptible." - Justice Janice Rogers Brown
April 08, 2017, 08:31 AM
bigdeal
quote:
Originally posted by sdy:
Here is a report I hope comes true.
Democrats seem intent on committing mass political suicide.

https://townhall.com/tipsheet/...irm-gorsuch-n2310457

The Women's March is none too pleased that President Donald Trump's nominee for the Supreme Court, Neil Gorsuch, was confirmed on Friday morning in a (slightly) bipartisan vote of 54-45.

They've decided that they'll be "coming for" Sens. Joe Manchin (D-WV), Joe Donnelly (D-IN), and Heidi Heitkamp (D-ND) because they voted for Gorsuch.

Considering that Indiana, North Dakota, and West Virginia all voted for Donald Trump by over 20-point margins, it seems rather silly to "go after" the seats of three elected officials in the primary process when in all likelihood a more liberal candidate would be demolished in the general by a Republican. It's as if they've never heard the saying "don't let the perfect be the enemy of the good."

But, clearly, bipartisanship is dead in the eyes of the extreme left. An elected official is in office to represent his or her constituents, not to carry out the goals of a party . This kind of ideological-purity-or-bust rhetoric will do nothing to help bridge the divide currently in Congress, and it's only going to result in further division and further gridlock

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actually it will help to "bridge the divide currently in Congress" because there will be less Democrats.
2018 could end up being a blood bath for the Dem's if these lunatics keep it up. Soooooo, have at it lunatics! Smile


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Guns are awesome because they shoot solid lead freedom. Every man should have several guns. And several dogs, because a man with a cat is a woman. Kurt Schlichter
April 08, 2017, 08:33 AM
bigdeal
quote:
Originally posted by JALLEN:
This has been one of the distinguishing characteristics of those conservatives who refrain from tilting at windmills, especially when the windmills tilt back, and are rewarded for their discretion by insults, cries of cowardice, no guts and other parts from purist conservatives who want to fight everyday, every hill, to the last man.
I may be wrong on this, but I don't think I am, I don't think Judge Gorsuch will ever have a 'guts' issue. The man seems imminently confident and steadfast in his positions.


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Guns are awesome because they shoot solid lead freedom. Every man should have several guns. And several dogs, because a man with a cat is a woman. Kurt Schlichter
April 08, 2017, 08:34 AM
BamaJeepster
I just want Gorsuch to follow the damn constitution and not make up or twist words to force his decisions to reach the outcome he desires. Wherever that may lead.



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April 08, 2017, 08:37 AM
Elk Hunter
quote:
Originally posted by toms:
I hope Judge Gorsuch has both long life and memory.

And that he will hold a grudge over what he has been put through by the commie leftists!


I believe he is way above such pettiness. He is a law and order stalwart. As he showed during the confirmation hearings, he rules based on the law, not on his personal beliefs. As I recall, he said something to the effect, "If you don't like the law, get it changed".


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April 08, 2017, 08:45 AM
chellim1
quote:
Originally posted by BamaJeepster:
I just want Gorsuch to follow the damn constitution and not make up or twist words to force his decisions to reach the outcome he desires. Wherever that may lead.

Yes.
... and of course when that happens it benefits everyone, left and right alike. The Constitution is not a "living document". It says what it says. If you don't like it, it contains provisions for change. But... that's not supposed to be easy and it's certainly not supposed to be at the whim of our un-elected branch of government.



"Some things are apparent. Where government moves in, community retreats, civil society disintegrates and our ability to control our own destiny atrophies. The result is: families under siege; war in the streets; unapologetic expropriation of property; the precipitous decline of the rule of law; the rapid rise of corruption; the loss of civility and the triumph of deceit. The result is a debased, debauched culture which finds moral depravity entertaining and virtue contemptible."
-- Justice Janice Rogers Brown

"The United States government is the largest criminal enterprise on earth."
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April 08, 2017, 08:48 AM
darthfuster
quote:
Originally posted by Elk Hunter:
quote:
Originally posted by toms:
I hope Judge Gorsuch has both long life and memory.

And that he will hold a grudge over what he has been put through by the commie leftists!


I believe he is way above such pettiness. He is a law and order stalwart. As he showed during the confirmation hearings, he rules based on the law, not on his personal beliefs. As I recall, he said something to the effect, "If you don't like the law, get it changed".



Which is why he Left hates him. Leftists want the rule of ideology imposed by as few as possible. We see what they do to decay the rule of law.



You’re a lying dog-faced pony soldier
April 08, 2017, 08:48 AM
JALLEN
quote:
Originally posted by bigdeal:
quote:
Originally posted by JALLEN:
This has been one of the distinguishing characteristics of those conservatives who refrain from tilting at windmills, especially when the windmills tilt back, and are rewarded for their discretion by insults, cries of cowardice, no guts and other parts from purist conservatives who want to fight everyday, every hill, to the last man.
I may be wrong on this, but I don't think I am, I don't think Judge Gorsuch will ever have a 'guts' issue. The man seems imminently confident and steadfast in his positions.


It's not Gorsuch I refer to, but the purists in the hinterlands who demand a vote on repealng Obamacare every day, who demand Congress do something on every issue they face, even when effective action is hopeless, because the votes weren't there, who howl with disgust and outrage at any compromise and refuse to support the weak kneed bowelless sissies who dare to vote for such travesties, who demand the President conduct all out war against anyone of either party who can't or won't toe their line. These citizens either reject the notion, or have never heard it, that politics is the art of the possible.




Luckily, I have enough willpower to control the driving ambition that rages within me.

When you had the votes, we did things your way. Now, we have the votes and you will be doing things our way. This lesson in political reality from Lyndon B. Johnson

"Some things are apparent. Where government moves in, community retreats, civil society disintegrates and our ability to control our own destiny atrophies. The result is: families under siege; war in the streets; unapologetic expropriation of property; the precipitous decline of the rule of law; the rapid rise of corruption; the loss of civility and the triumph of deceit. The result is a debased, debauched culture which finds moral depravity entertaining and virtue contemptible." - Justice Janice Rogers Brown