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seeking recommendations for snow chains for tires

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January 05, 2018, 05:57 PM
wrightd
seeking recommendations for snow chains for tires
I don't live in snow country, but I couldn't get out of my driveway today with my year-around daily driver highway tires. I don't know what the current technology is in snow tire chains, but I think I need them.

Do you guys have any that you've used that work good, particularly at higher speeds ?




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January 05, 2018, 06:07 PM
FN in MT
Chains are a PITA, get some snow tires.
January 05, 2018, 06:10 PM
hvyhawler
Chains and cables are made for low speeds. I second snow tires if needed...
January 05, 2018, 06:10 PM
KMitch200
"Higher speeds" and snow chains don't go together in the same sentence.


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January 05, 2018, 06:23 PM
Outnumbered
I highly recommend snow chains. I make my own from heavy-gauge chain, and use twisted link for the cross bars. Then again, I'm referring to my job, a county highwayman, for my plow truck Smile
January 05, 2018, 06:25 PM
rtquig
Aren't there some states with highways that cut through mountains that won't let you go on the pass without chains?


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January 05, 2018, 06:25 PM
ZSMICHAEL
Just call in sick. Snow tires the best move. If you are going through mountain passes and up steep hills then go with the chains. It takes some skill to put those on, especially with deteriorating road conditions.
January 05, 2018, 06:47 PM
braillediver
Chains are for crawling up the mountain pass.

Get good all weather tires and if it's still too slick stay home.

quote:
Originally posted by rtquig:
Aren't there some states with highways that cut through mountains that won't let you go on the pass without chains?


We've got Stevens Pass and I-90- They'll have Warnings and Mandatory chains when the weather gets bad. You're probably not making it over without them.


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January 05, 2018, 07:03 PM
Skins2881
Mars knows about which ones are good for use in really snowy areas like Georgia



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January 05, 2018, 07:29 PM
tanner
http://pewagchain.com



January 05, 2018, 07:58 PM
tatortodd
When I lived in Anchorage, Alaska, '09-'14 I had studded snow tires and they were awesome. I owned chains but never used them. I planned ahead and bought a house in the flat part of the city so I stayed home if it were bad enough that I needed more than a 4wd truck with studded tires and 350 lbs of sand bags in the rear end. Some of my friends and coworkers lived hillside or had remote cabins so they used them at low speed as short of distance as possible.

When I lived in Calgary, Alberta, '14-'16 I tried to buy the Michelin X-ice (Michelin X-ice and Nokian Hakkapeliittas are highest rated snow tires) but they were sold out at 5 tire chain stores. I ended up buying the Yokohama IceGuard which some (not all) review sites rate right behind the Michelin and ahead of the Blizzaks. They were awesome and I never missed the studded tires. In fact, university research showed that studded tires were only better when it was 25 to 35 F (i.e. more likely water on surface of ice and softer ice) and studless snow tires were equal at temperatures colder than 25F (actually superior above 35F).

In both locations, I had 4wd trucks with multiple sand bags over the rear axle. I drive the same speed as everyone else, but much more following distance. All of this combines for having a larger safety margin than other drivers and zero accidents in 7 winters.



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January 05, 2018, 08:27 PM
wrightd
quote:
Originally posted by FN in MT:
Chains are a PITA, get some snow tires.

Snow tires not a good idea, since it only snows like this every once in five years. Where I live most winters we get no snow at all, so snow tires would dry rot before I could use them. I only need traction for a bad snowfall once every five years, and only for a day or two at most. So if I can slap on some tire chains once every five years for one or two days, I am asking if that is a realistic and practical solution. Also this is not a HD truck, it's a f150, if that makes a difference, so the "chains" or whatever it is the current technology for tire chains, couldn't be very big like a real HD truck or commercial hauler etc.




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January 05, 2018, 08:31 PM
pakrat57
quote:
Originally posted by tanner:
http://pewagchain.com

This is the style I use and they are pretty easy to put on. http://pewagchain.com/Products...UV/brenta-c-4x4.aspx
January 05, 2018, 09:15 PM
trapper189
Get a couple bags of rock salt and a couple bags of sand. Much cheaper than chains for a once every 5 years type of thing.

If you really want chains, check your owner's manual. I believe it will say you should use class S chains.
January 05, 2018, 10:42 PM
burnetma
What are you driving and what tires is it wearing? My suspicion is that your vehicle and/or tires are probably marginal for snow.

Chains may be illegal in some states. Chains are certainly overkill unless you are talking feet of snow. Chains are a PITA, as previously stated. Once you put a set of chains on and off once, you will do anything to avoid doing it again. In fact, I would rather change out four wheels and tires the day before the storm than put on and remove snow chains.

I have lived most of my life in the northeast (NY, PA, VT). I never stayed home due to weather and I never once needed chains on my passenger vehicles. Not even on my 1969 Mustang in severe western PA/NY winters or the several 24-50" snowfall events. Driving in snow is part driver skill and part knowing your vehicle's limitations. Smart vehicle choice and good tires go a long way. A 4x4 F150 with good all season tires should get you anywhere you should go. You can still get stuck with chains, if you do not know the limits. They provide some margin, but are not fool proof.
January 06, 2018, 12:03 AM
dkv
I got super-z tire cables for my car. Worked well when we got snow in CT. Still a pain in the ass to get on, though.

Now I have snow tires on our two cars and they are a dream!
January 06, 2018, 01:12 AM
egregore
I had to use chains a few times in Mammoth Lakes, CA. They suck.
quote:
Do you guys have any that you've used that work good, particularly at higher speeds ?

Chains are not for high speed driving. 35 mph is a prudent speed, maybe 45 tops.





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January 06, 2018, 07:58 AM
arfmel
I think your enthusiasm for the idea of using chains will be tempered a good deal by actually using them once or twice.
January 06, 2018, 08:10 AM
ffips
quote:
Originally posted by wrightd:
I don't live in snow country, but I couldn't get out of my driveway today with my year-around daily driver highway tires. I don't know what the current technology is in snow tire chains, but I think I need them.

Do you guys have any that you've used that work good, particularly at higher speeds ?


A. Sharing the location (State at minimum) will likely assist in assisting.

B. Why now? What has changed? A weather event that occurs every 5-10 years likely doesn't justify the investment. Can you simply wait out the issue?

C. Is it just the driveway you have issues with? Why not clear it via sand or salt the drive as another has suggested? What is the terrain once you have escaped the drive?

D. Winter driving can be challenging especially if it seldom occurs. Sometimes it is safer to just stay put. Think of the others with little or no knowledge / experience. Often they are the higher threat.
January 06, 2018, 10:36 AM
Krazeehorse
Once every five years? Stay home or call Uber.


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