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My brother's car was flooded and totaled last year. He got a new Hyundai Elantra this year and has wrecked it. $7000 in front end damage due to his careless driving. While the car was being repaired at Priority Hyundai in Chesapeake VA it was hit with horrific hail. Priority is absolutely refusing to pay his deductible because they are claiming it is an "act of God". To say my brother is furious would be a gross understatement.

Is Priority on the hook for damage that occurs to the car while it is in their possession? Why does Priority believe God would damage my brothers car? Has he been screwed again by the bad luck car gods?


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Posts: 21255 | Location: San Dimas CA, The Old Dominion or the Tar Heel State.  | Registered: April 16, 2007Reply With QuoteReport This Post
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I don't deal with auto claims, but I believe the dealership is correct. It would be no different than if it was parked at an outdoor parking lot at an airport or in the mall parking lot. Would hate to see his rates comes renewal time.
 
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I agree - Act of God or at least
Mother Nature. A comprehensive claim should not effect his rates.

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I feel for your brother! What a horrible run of bad luck.
 
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Comprehensive damage, his insurance covers the damage, it's not the dealers/paint shops responsibility to protect his car from acts of god.

Now if they are out test driving it to check repairs and total it, that's a different story and they'll still try to get you to claim it on his coverage, but hail?

Hard to blame that on a dealer....
 
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I am sure the piece of paper he signed when he dropped off the car will specifically state that they are not liable for "acts of God".


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All of the above are correct.

Weather disasters are an Act of God in insurance parlance. His own comprehensive policy should cover the damage, however.

An exception would be if there was some sort of negligence or breach of contract on the part of the dealer. Were they obligated to keep it inside or under cover for any particular reason?

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Not an insurance expert here, but I agree with others that it should be your brother's insurance company's responsibility, if he has coverage for such things in his policy. Certainly not the dealership's responsibility.
 
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One day in the hot sun will pop most of the damage; car dealers know this as they see it often in states like CO. His comprehensive insurance should cover the rest.





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Your brother should read his insurance paperwork before getting enraged.
 
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When it rains it pours...and some times hails. I wonder how much all this has killed his Elantra's resale value?


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Act of God was explained to me as being defined by the interval of time that passes between occurrences. As an example, if the last time it hailed was three hundred years ago then it was an Act of God. If the region gets hail storms once a year then it's not an Act of God. This definition may not apply in your state and may apply in others. Insurance actuaries know what regions get regular weather related damage and of what nature and will include it in your coverage and your premium.
 
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Why does Priority believe God would damage my brothers car?

Fwiw, I just spoke to God and He ain't paying for no hail damage.


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Posts: 21255 | Location: San Dimas CA, The Old Dominion or the Tar Heel State.  | Registered: April 16, 2007Reply With QuoteReport This Post
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Why does Priority believe God would damage my brothers car?

Fwiw, I just spoke to God and He ain't paying for no hail damage.
Yeah he says the rain and hail have been here since the beginning, your brother's car just got here a year or so ago.

Resale value has likely been impacted a good amount, $7K front end and hail damage? He's better off using his insurance and continuing to drive the car.
 
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Wonder about the inventory of the dealership? I'd imagine there would be a similar amount of damage. Did their insurance decide it was also an "Act of God?"
Point is, if their insurance did cover the damage, then his car would seem to be covered. You might check.



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There were thousands of cars damaged in hail last year by hail in San Antonio, lots of residential roofs, too. USAA had 36,000 auto damage claims from 3 days of hail last April.

The dealership I use told me that each owner's insurance covers it, or not, not them or their insurance.




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One day in the hot sun will pop most of the damage...
That hasn't been my experience


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Originally posted by Icabod:
Wonder about the inventory of the dealership? I'd imagine there would be a similar amount of damage. Did their insurance decide it was also an "Act of God?"
Point is, if their insurance did cover the damage, then his car would seem to be covered. You might check.


That makes no sense. The dealer's insurance would cover the dealer's inventory. Stickman's brother's comprehensive coverage will cover Stickman's brother's vehicle.

Unless there was some sort of agreement to the contrary, or VA insurance law and boilerplate policy language is dramatically different from that of most other states' (which it is not), the dealer is not going to cover this.

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