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Baroque Bloke
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First, please don’t drift this thread to Microsoft or Linux platforms – thanks.

I want to get a simple Mac laptop database app. My basic requirements:

1. Everything (app & data) on my Mac, as opposed to the cloud.
2. $30 (max) one-time cost (no subscription).
3. Easy database creation and modification.

I don’t need numerical or statistical capabilities – just text data. And the quantity of data would be moderate.

A spreadsheet can serve some database functions, but becomes awkward with increasingly complex requirements.

I checked the web and found LOTS of offerings – a PITA to sort through them all, so asking for help from the brain trust. Do any of you folks have experience with Mac database apps such as I described?



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If you're just looking for something similar along the lines of MS Access - you could use LibreOffice Base (just install the full libre office suite). It's free (open source) LibreOffice

If you need a higher capability database, then there are other open source options available (SQLLite, Postgres, CouchDB, MongoDB, etc) that should all work.
 
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You don't give any significant info there. Database is a big word and covers a lot of data types. This looks like a good place to start.

What do you need to do? Run queries, access via an application, the questions can go on and on.

Just to let you know, no "real" databases run on a Mac because they are not servers. It doesn't sound like you need a "real" database but I'm just guessing here.

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MySQL. When you decide to run Python, which is currently installed in your Mac, you'll have a match made in heaven.


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Just to let you know, no "real" databases run on a Mac because they are not servers.
This is patently false. The underpinnings of MacOS is a more-or-less standard Unix (as popularly known in this day and age), and you can configure Mac hardware to be the equal of or superior to the great majority of Internet "servers" extant in the world today, although the "lowly" MacMini is good enough for the majority of uses.

My clients run Mac servers for a variety of server-style applications, web, mail, DNS, database, etc. some with a global scope, and hundreds of thousands of clients. Most open source server software easily compiles and runs on macOS. Apple even distributes a "macOS Server" application that provides packaged "server software," and allows an administrator to manage network services via a GUI.

Since the OP mentioned laptops, I will concede that it is more of a challenge to configure a laptop with sufficient resources to act in a server role, but it certainly can be done.

It might be helpful, so as to bound this discussion, to define what is meant by a "real" database. I think the folks at MongoDB, MySQL, and Sybase, all of which run on macOS, might have their own opinions on this matter.
 
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Just to let you know, no "real" databases run on a Mac because they are not servers.
This is patently false. The underpinnings of MacOS is a more-or-less standard Unix (as popularly known in this day and age), and you can configure Mac hardware to be the equal of or superior to the great majority of Internet "servers" extant in the world today, although the "lowly" MacMini is good enough for the majority of uses.

My clients run Mac servers for a variety of server-style applications, web, mail, DNS, database, etc. some with a global scope, and hundreds of thousands of clients. Most open source server software easily compiles and runs on macOS. Apple even distributes a "macOS Server" application that provides packaged "server software," and allows an administrator to manage network services via a GUI.

Since the OP mentioned laptops, I will concede that it is more of a challenge to configure a laptop with sufficient resources to act in a server role, but it certainly can be done.

It might be helpful, so as to bound this discussion, to define what is meant by a "real" database. I think the folks at MongoDB, MySQL, and Sybase, all of which run on macOS, might have their own opinions on this matter.


You're full of shit. The next time you see a 1tb to a 800tb db nuning on a Mac, let me knowBig Grin Bwaaaaaaaaaaaahahaha. They don't exist. Back to the thread, MySql or SqlLite might do a good job for the OP.
 
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I've seen many 1TB+ databases on Macs, Mostly RDBMS's under Oracle or Sybase. I don't think I've seen anything as large as 800TB that wasn't implemented in a distributed manner. Can you give a working example of something like that in the environments with which you are familiar?
 
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I concur with LibreOffice.

Libre - free download, open Base, create a database ...

On my MBP (13-inch, 2018, 16GB, 1TB), I use Python and Flask (RESTful web services), create new databases with Libre, and when tasked, import MySQL databases (extra steps with Java issues easily solved and documented online).

Others are sure to chime in.

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Originally posted by architect:
I've seen many 1TB+ databases on Macs, Mostly RDBMS's under Oracle or Sybase. I don't think I've seen anything as large as 800TB that wasn't implemented in a distributed manner. Can you give a working example of something like that in the environments with which you are familiar?


Let's start a new thread and not wreck this one. I think we could have a great discussion! I'm pretty sure I will value your opinion.
 
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^^^^^^^^
Looks interesting, but, as I said, no cloud.

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Thanks for the suggestions folks, I truly appreciate them. But most were over my head. It’s not you, it’s me. In the meantime, I’ve found one (link below), that appears to be about what I want. And it’s free (with in-app upgrade offer for additional features). And I didn’t see any mention of “cloud” in the article (win!), except for iCloud to sync Mac and iPad apps (I don’t have an iPad).

https://mac360.com/2016/08/yes...ree-ac-database-app/



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FileMaker Pro...

Easy, not super expensive, fairly intuitive, good online blogs for "how do I...?" questions


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Originally posted by craigcpa:
MySQL. When you decide to run Python, which is currently installed in your Mac, you'll have a match made in heaven.


I have mySQL running on my MacBook Pro. It's free, and so is mySQL Workbench, which gives you a nice GUI with which to use it.

By the way, mySQL is enterprise-level software. There are commercial sites and organizations that use it.

https://www.macupdate.com/find/mac/mySQL

https://www.mysql.com/products/workbench/

https://www.thoughtco.com/inst...mysql-on-mac-2693866




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