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A memorial made of tampons? What kind of mentally disordered buffoon thinks of these ideas? And how are there enough others to help? Seriously, I would be ashamed if anyone did the like in my name.....


Agreed. I can't think any rational person would really want that as any part of a legacy.




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Dem theme in the hearings seems to be chicken little, sky is falling ad hominem about loss of coverage for preexisting conditions and discrimination against women by charging them more if ACA is overturned.

All the dems have pictures of “victims” of COVID or other maladies behind them and tell heartbreaking stories about how they will be victims if ACB is put on the court.

Tugging at the heartstrings and emotions with bullshit stories in an attempt to draw attention away from logic, law and the constitution.

Blumenthal just “demanded” ACB recuse herself as being the right thing to do Roll Eyes


You are ignoring the theatric component of all of this. Everyone knows how this will play out, but all the theatrics have the benefit of affecting electoral politics, especially when a Presidential election is this close.

Actual "advice and consent" has almost nothing to do with what is happening. Electoral politics, in the form of a hearing on the nominee, is what is happening.

mbinky has got it.




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Time for a functioning, competent Supreme Court Justice to fill the seat that's been vacant for years.


Ginsburg was functioning and competent up until the end. You and I both didn't like her politics and jurisprudence, but she was not incapacitated.


jhe

I would agree with you right up until she started to ignore the Constitution and decided that the country would be better off using her own personal interpretation of what is should be and not what it is

in that event, she has been AWOL from the USSC for a very long time

she may have been there in the seat, but she wasn't representing the Constitution of the US - maybe some other country like Egypt (apparently ours wasn't good enough)
 
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You are ignoring the theatric component of all of this. Everyone knows how this will play out, but all the theatrics have the benefit of affecting electoral politics, especially when a Presidential election is this close.

Actual "advice and consent" has almost nothing to do with what is happening. Electoral politics, in the form of a hearing on the nominee, is what is happening.

mbinky has got it.


Actually the theatrics is what pisses me off. I’ve never been a form over substance guy.

It is unfortunate that so many people are swayed and make decisions based on such “performances” instead of logic and reason that they have to be pandered to in order to get a vote.






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Ginsburg was functioning and competent up until the end.





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Agreed. I can't think any rational person would really want that as any part of a legacy.

That's the problem with being (having been?) RBG: you work hard, you get through law school, you build a career, you build a body of jurisprudence and...all you are to the meatheads is a lousy symbol. There's a reason why the gold crown they keep painting onto her head in pictures is crooked, and it's not because Ruth was a big fan of Flava Flav.
 
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Thank you, oddball. Big Grin

I have been around my share of folks in late stages of cancer, and almost all were completely out of it being in pain, suffering from "chemo brain", or morphed to the max.

In the last months or weeks, they are as bad, if not worse, cognitively, than latter years of dementia.

Yeah, exceptions, but Rutabaga Lindbergher was voting "present" for a while.




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Ted Cruz Roasts Democrats for Partisan Whining During Barrett Hearing

The Senate hearings for the nomination of Judge Amy Coney Barrett to the Supreme Court are underway, and the Democrats and Republicans on the Judiciary Committee have already shown this will be a dog fight. Sen. Ted Cruz (R-TX) used his opening remarks on Monday to excoriate his Democratic colleagues for failing to discuss Barrett's record. The committee Democrats have instead asserted that Barrett would torpedo Obamacare and complained about a supposedly unfair process too close to a presidential election.

"What speaks the loudest is the dog that didn't bark," Cruz said, aptly quoting fictional detective Sherlock Holmes. "We've heard, virtually, not a word about Judge Barrett."

Cruz went on to list Barrett's stunning resume and her remarkable achievements, as a judge on the Seventh Circuit Court of Appeals, all while being a mother to seven children.

"On any measure Judge Barrett's credentials are impeccable," Cruz said. But the partisan division in the Senate was preventing Democrats from even giving her record a moment's thought as they attacked her and the president and the entire Republican Party throughout their opening remarks.

But that was nothing compared to the Democrats' interpretation of the role of the judiciary branch of government.

"Democrats and Republicans have fundamentally different visions on the Supreme Court," Cruz said. "Democratic senators view the Court as a super-legislature, as a policy-making body."

Cruz framed the terrifying concept of having laws that affect everyday life for Americans handed down by a court instead of the elected legislature.

"Who in their right mind would want America ruled by five unelected lawyers in black robes?" Cruz asked. He went on to criticize Democrats for accusing Barrett of being a Republican "torpedo" against Obamacare in an upcoming hearing about the 2010 healthcare legislation, the hallmark of President Obama's time in office.

"Much of the argument this morning is about Obamacare," Cruz said. "They want a promise from this nominee that she will work with Democrats to implement Democrat policy." But that is not the role of judges serving on any court, even the Supreme Court, Cruz said.

Cruz also said he understood the concern over potentially removing Obamacare and how it would be replaced.

"Remember this: every single member of the Senate believes that preexisting conditions can and should be protected," he said. He also noted that there was bi-partisan concern over how high insurance premiums have become under Obamacare. But, Cruz insisted, these were matters for the elected legislature to resolve, not the Supreme Court.

"Those questions should be resolved in this body, by the elected legislature," he said. Cruz also took senate Democrats to task for failing to approve COVID-19 recovery money for Americans, using the filibuster to escape the responsibility of passing meaningful, life-saving legislation.

"Today our Democratic colleagues fillibuster everything and complain that nothing gets passed," he said. Instead, they use their time to blame the president for everything and insist the process of confirming Amy Coney Barrett is not fair.

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So what happens if the Democrats make good on their promise to pack the court?


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I couldn’t listen to the Dems on Judiciary Committee, skipped Kennedy and Blackburn; the most impressive argument so far has been by Professor Patricia O’Hara of Notre Dame. She managed to confuse Judge Barrett’s opponents by noting that she had also written a statement in favor of Elena Kegan’s appointment to the Supreme Court. Her testimony, ironically, was much more impressive than Judge Barrett’s opening statement.
We’ll see what questioning brings out—the big unknown is how low the Dems will sink.


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... the big unknown is how low the Dems will sink.

Every time I think they've hit bottom, they find another hatch door to new depths. The answer to your question is, I believe, however low they have to go.



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So what happens if the Democrats make good on their promise to pack the court?


It’s a pretty big if. At the very least, they’d have to vote to repeal the filibuster. Which would be filibustered. Even worse case scenario, I don’t see the Democrats having enough votes to pull that off.





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Time for a functioning, competent Supreme Court Justice to fill the seat that's been vacant for years.


Ginsburg was functioning and competent up until the end. You and I both didn't like her politics and jurisprudence, but she was not incapacitated.
I guess if you consider her staff as the reason she was functional we could agree. However, I do not for one moment believe Ginsburg has written or significantly contributed to any opinions offered on her behalf in the court for several years. She is the poster child for why lifetime appointments to anything is a very bad idea.


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Originally posted by sigalert:...I don’t see the Democrats having enough votes to pull that off.


Yep. They need 2/3 majority vote of both of Senate and House, and a President to sign.




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Ginsburg was functioning and competent up until the end.

I saw no real evidence of this over the last several months. She was a meat puppet, nothing more.




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So what happens if the Democrats make good on their promise to pack the court?


They could, but then it's nothing to stop the next administration from packing it again, and again, until we have 20, 30, 50, when would it end.

At one time you could count on the Senate to be the voice of reason and calm, the upper chamber was designed to represent the interests of the states and country, once the 17th was ratified it became just an extension of the house.
 
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Dem theme in the hearings seems to be chicken little, sky is falling ad hominem about loss of coverage for preexisting conditions and discrimination against women by charging them more if ACA is overturned.

All the dems have pictures of “victims” of COVID or other maladies behind them and tell heartbreaking stories about how they will be victims if ACB is put on the court.

Tugging at the heartstrings and emotions with bullshit stories in an attempt to draw attention away from logic, law and the constitution.

Blumenthal just “demanded” ACB recuse herself as being the right thing to do Roll Eyes


Its a shame ACB couldn't have responded - "No. Furthermore, How Dare YOU! to have the audacity to ask such a thing, considering how you lied about serving in Vietnam while sitting where you are."
 
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I couldn’t listen to the Dems on Judiciary Committee, skipped Kennedy and Blackburn; the most impressive argument so far has been by Professor Patricia O’Hara of Notre Dame. She managed to confuse Judge Barrett’s opponents by noting that she had also written a statement in favor of Elena Kegan’s appointment to the Supreme Court. Her testimony, ironically, was much more impressive than Judge Barrett’s opening statement.
We’ll see what questioning brings out—the big unknown is how low the Dems will sink.


I agree. I thought it was anti-climactic to let her speak after the nominee had spoken already. But her support for Kagan is a great playing card even more so than Graham's vote for Democrat nominees. I'm glad she got to speak.



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