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Ruth Bader Ginsburg, Dead at 87
May 07, 2020, 08:37 AM
GraniteguyRuth Bader Ginsburg, Dead at 87
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Originally posted by pbslinger:
Court TV broadcast what I think was the first ever live audio of SC hearings. I only caught a little of her, but was surprise to hear her seeming lucid, intelligent, and tuned in. My impression of her not really being able to perform her job was derived from her seeming to be hiding from scrutiny.
Was there video as well?
May 07, 2020, 08:42 AM
pedropcolaI would not be surprised by periods of lucidity. I also suspect long periods of just the opposite.
May 07, 2020, 11:39 AM
Oat_Action_Manquote:
Originally posted by pedropcola:
I would not be surprised by periods of lucidity. I also suspect long periods of just the opposite.
RBG strikes me as profoundly lucid and quick witted--when she's awake.
She's one of those old people who still absolutely has her faculties about her, she's just old and falls asleep, not to mention is at the end of her life and in and out of the hospital.
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May 07, 2020, 11:45 AM
tleo205quote:
she's just old and falls asleep
Yeah, during cases and then renders a decision having missed parts of arguments.
May 07, 2020, 11:52 AM
Pipe SmokerShe’s hanging on, hoping to see a Dem president elected this year.
When President Trump is reelected she’ll resign.
Serious about crackers. May 07, 2020, 11:53 AM
bigdealquote:
Originally posted by tleo205:
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she's just old and falls asleep
Yeah, during cases and then renders a decision having missed parts of arguments.
Highly doubtful. More likely, auntie Ruthie hasn't penned an opinion in years. You can bet her staff of un-American progressives decides what her position will be and pens her responses with little to no input from the napping fossil. Ruthie's been phoning this crap in for years.
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May 07, 2020, 11:56 AM
bigdealquote:
Originally posted by Pipe Smoker:
When President Trump is reelected she’ll resign.
You'd have to be deluded to believe that. If Trump is re-elected, she and her supporters will use every option in modern medicine to try and hold out for the 2024 election. She'd opt to die before she ceded her seat to a Trump appointee.
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Guns are awesome because they shoot solid lead freedom. Every man should have several guns. And several dogs, because a man with a cat is a woman. Kurt Schlichter
May 07, 2020, 12:06 PM
HRKquote:
She'd opt to die before she ceded her seat to a Trump appointee.
Those terms are acceptable....
May 07, 2020, 12:19 PM
Pipe Smokerquote:
Originally posted by bigdeal:
quote:
Originally posted by Pipe Smoker:
When President Trump is reelected she’ll resign.
You'd have to be deluded to believe that. If Trump is re-elected, she and her supporters will use every option in modern medicine to try and hold out for the 2024 election. She'd opt to die before she ceded her seat to a Trump appointee.
We’ll see who’s right. I’m betting on me.
Serious about crackers. May 07, 2020, 12:24 PM
Jimbo JonesWhen asked about whether or not she'd retire when Trump is re-elected, Justice Ginsburg's response was....
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It's like my brain's a tree and you're those little cookie elves.
May 07, 2020, 12:34 PM
12131quote:
Originally posted by bigdeal:
quote:
Originally posted by Pipe Smoker:
When President Trump is reelected she’ll resign.
You'd have to be deluded to believe that.
If When Trump is re-elected, she and her supporters will use every option in modern medicine to try and hold out for the 2024 election. She'd opt to die before she ceded her seat to a Trump appointee.
Whatever. She'll die upon learning of Trump re-election. Same thing.
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May 07, 2020, 01:05 PM
oddballquote:
Originally posted by pbslinger:
intelligent, and tuned in.
Not really the first words I'd use to describe Ginsburg.
"I’m not going to read Time Magazine, I’m not going to read Newsweek, I’m not going to read any of these magazines; I mean, because they have too much to lose by printing the truth"- Bob Dylan, 1965
May 07, 2020, 01:37 PM
ifithituShe's a tough old bird,get well soon Justice Ginsburg.
May 07, 2020, 02:00 PM
fpuhanWhen the end of the world occurs, the only survivors will be Keith Richards and Ruth Bader Ginzburg.
Of course, they won't be able to repopulate the planet, but by then, who'll be there to care?
You can't truly call yourself "peaceful" unless you are capable of great violence. If you're not capable of great violence, you're not peaceful, you're harmless.
NRA Benefactor/Patriot Member May 07, 2020, 02:24 PM
Sig2340quote:
Originally posted by fpuhan:
Of course, they won't be able to repopulate the planet....
< reaches for brain bleach >
> chugs a gallon of it <
< no effect >
Thank you for the mental image of Richards and Ginsberg making the beast with two backs.
It would look like two Sphinx cats going at it.
Nice is overrated
"It's every freedom-loving individual's duty to lie to the government."
Airsoftguy, June 29, 2018
May 07, 2020, 02:25 PM
nhtagmemberapparently she laid into the 9th Circus today....and reamed them new assholes
May 07, 2020, 02:26 PM
Sig2340quote:
Originally posted by nhtagmember:
apparently she laid into the 9th Circus today....and reamed them new assholes
Not progressive enough?
Nice is overrated
"It's every freedom-loving individual's duty to lie to the government."
Airsoftguy, June 29, 2018
May 07, 2020, 02:30 PM
HRKquote:
Originally posted by Sig2340:
quote:
Originally posted by nhtagmember:
apparently she laid into the 9th Circus today....and reamed them new assholes
Not progressive enough?
El Linko Ginsburg eviscerates 9th Circuit’s handling of immigration consultant's case Authoring a unanimous Supreme Court opinion, Justice Ruth Bader Ginsburg tore into the Ninth Circuit Court of Appeals for "drastically" straying from judicial norms when hearing a case involving a California immigration consultant.
After Evelyn Sineneng-Smith had been convicted of violating a federal law related to encouraging illegal immigration, the Ninth Circuit reversed the decision, not based on arguments presented by Sineneng-Smith, but by third parties the court brought in to submit arguments that the panel of judges themselves had suggested.
RUTH BADER GINSBURG RELEASED FROM HOSPITAL AFTER INFECTION
"[T]he appeals panel departed so drastically from the principle of party presentation as to constitute an abuse of discretion," Ginsburg wrote, later stating that "a court is not hidebound by the precise arguments of counsel, but the Ninth Circuit’s radical transformation of this case goes well beyond the pale."
The Supreme Court sent the case back down the Ninth Circuit "for reconsideration ... bearing a fair resemblance to the case shaped by the parties."
Sineneng-Smith had been convicted of violating a federal law against someone who "encourages or induces an alien to come to, enter, or reside in the United States" if they know they would be in the country illegally. That was after she charged clients who sought to apply for labor certifications to obtain legal status, prosecutors said, even though she knew they could not meet the application deadlines.
She argued that her conduct was not covered by the statute, and if it was it would be a violation of her First Amendment rights. After both sides submitted briefs and held oral arguments, the Ninth Circuit panel -- instead of deciding the case at that point -- invited the Federal Defender Organizations of the Ninth Circuit, the Immigrant Defense Project, and the National Immigration Project of the National Lawyers Guild to file briefs.
SUPREME COURT UNANIMOUSLY REVERSES 'BRIDGEGATE' CONVICTIONS
The Ninth Circuit specifically outlined issues for them to discuss, including whether the law in question was unconstitutionally overbroad under the First Amendment -- an issue separate from any of Sineneng-Smith's arguments. They also gave the organizations 20 minutes to present oral arguments, compared to just 10 for Sineneng-Smith's lawyers.
The Ninth Circuit ended up overturning Sineneng-Smith's conviction based on the idea that the law was overbroad under the First Amendment.
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Ginsburg wrote that the Ninth Circuit's actions undermined the principle that parties and their counsels are responsible for presenting their own case.
"There are no doubt circumstances in which a modest initiating role for a court is appropriate," Ginsburg wrote. "But this case scarcely fits that bill."
May 07, 2020, 08:35 PM
mod29quote:
Originally posted by ifithitu:
She's a tough old bird,get well soon Justice Ginsburg.
If you're a RBG cheerleader, you're in the wrong place.
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May 07, 2020, 08:54 PM
oddballquote:
Originally posted by ifithitu:
get well soon Justice Ginsburg.
She needs to GTFO.
She needs to
go. Interpret that however you wish.
"I’m not going to read Time Magazine, I’m not going to read Newsweek, I’m not going to read any of these magazines; I mean, because they have too much to lose by printing the truth"- Bob Dylan, 1965