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Originally posted by Flashlightboy:
This shit about the left is going to lie about her death is really juvenile and up there with the 100 mpg carburetor and Tupac is still alive.

No one can conceal her death. It will be announced by the court or the White House. None of this shit about how she's going to be a manequin and somehow she's going to vote on cases and none of the other justices and their respective staff will have any idea she's dead?

That's asinine. Really stupid to even think about it.

I think you’ve missed the point of these jokes entirely. That’s ok, though. You be mature, I’m gonna have a giggle about how the left would embalm this woman and replace her insides with machinery to turn her into a modern day version of The Turk, if they could.

Read back through this thread. There are a number among the left who have actually professed that they would willingly trade years off their lives to keep this woman on the court until she can be replaced by what they deem a worthy successor. That’s asinine. Really stupid to even think about it. And people willing to go that far can’t be joked about, or wondered aloud if they’re so fucking unhinged that they could actually try to conceal a person’s death? Less so, in my opinion.

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Originally posted by P220 Smudge:

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Originally posted by Flashlightboy:
This shit about the left is going to lie about her death is really juvenile and up there with the 100 mpg carburetor and Tupac is still alive.

No one can conceal her death. It will be announced by the court or the White House. None of this shit about how she's going to be a manequin and somehow she's going to vote on cases and none of the other justices and their respective staff will have any idea she's dead?

That's asinine. Really stupid to even think about it.

I think you’ve missed the point of these jokes entirely. That’s ok, though. You be mature, I’m gonna have a giggle about how the left would embalm this woman and replace her insides with machinery to turn her into a modern day version of The Turk, if they could.

Read back through this thread. There are a number among the left who have actually professed that they would willingly trade years off their lives to keep this woman on the court until she can be replaced by what they deem a worthy successor. That’s asinine. Really stupid to even think about it. And people willing to go that far can’t be joked about, or wondered aloud if they’re so fucking unhinged that they could actually try to conceal a person’s death? Less so, in my opinion.

Not only that but there are more lies to be told than whether she died. They can and would say she died in great grief that Trump not be allowed to replace her. In fact those were her last labored words and the slipped the surly bonds of life to watch us carry out her last wishes next to God Himself. So you see, Trump must not be allowed to replace her. The Left is nothing if not brazen in their creativity. I think they've proved willing to tell any tale that advances the cause. Plus, as you say, it is great fun to delve into Mel Brooks style comedy.

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Originally posted by Flashlightboy:
This shit about the left is going to lie about her death is really juvenile and up there with the 100 mpg carburetor and Tupac is still alive.

No one can conceal her death. It will be announced by the court or the White House. None of this shit about how she's going to be a manequin and somehow she's going to vote on cases and none of the other justices and their respective staff will have any idea she's dead?

That's asinine. Really stupid to even think about it.

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Originally posted by Flashlightboy:
This shit about the left is going to lie about her death is really juvenile and up there with the 100 mpg carburetor and Tupac is still alive.

No one can conceal her death...

All right, then:
As enough of us agree that this thread has become primarily a way to pleasure ourselves with speculation about conspiracies to conceal Ginsberg’s death until after the next election, would it be permissible to open a new one that sticks to serious discussions of issues relating to her and a possible replacement?

No, everyone is just going to cease the grab-ass in this thread.

If she passes from now until the 2020 election, the Demorats will use the argument the Republicans used to deny Obama his appointee to SCOTUS. Of course that won’t help much since the Republicans have majority in the Senate. The cries from the press and the rats will be fierce for sure.

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Originally posted by Ozarkwoods:
If she passes from now until the 2020 election, the Demorats will use the argument the Republicans used to deny Obama his appointee to SCOTUS. Of course that won’t help much since the Republicans have majority in the Senate. The cries from the press and the rats will be fierce for sure.

You're undoubtedly right, of course.

What worries me is whether she's fit for the job whenever and however she goes.

She was quoted in a 2012 interview that seemed to say that the U.S Constitution is not fit for a "modern" country.

"Supreme Court Justice Ruth Bader Ginsburg told an Egyptian TV station that she would not recommend the U.S. Constitution as model for Egypt’s new government. The problem, you see, is that the U.S. Constitution is “a rather old constitution.”

Ginsburg suggested that Egyptians should look instead to the Constitution of South Africa or perhaps the European Convention on Human Rights. All these are “much more recent than the U.S. Constitution.”" LINK

Her point of view that seems to say the the U.S. Constitution is outdated must be replaced on the U.S Supreme Court.

While Egypt, for instance, may not be able to take on our constitution because it resulted from unique historical circumstances, she seems to denigrate our historic frame of government. It was designed to always have opposing tension.

I hope President Trump gets to replace her with someone more supportive of the U.S. Constitution and the Amendment process if we, as a people, want to change it.

Judicial legislation is not the way to go.

The other models she prefers are steeped in more of a positive law approach where judges change the law as time goes along rather than trying to keep an original intent.

No one says that we can't change the U.S. Constitution but just who should do it - unelected judges or the people themselves?

Ginsburg's life expectancy puts those kinds of questions center stage.

It wouldn't surprise me if the Republicans went ahead with confirmation in an election year, saying they're just restoring regular order.

Anymore, Democrat howling about everything is such that it's like an idiot's "sound and fury, signifying nothing." (Shakespere)

Every report of successful hospital treatment has a common theme of resumption of normal life, unaffected by infirmity. Also common is no video of her actual condition or interview to verify her mental state.

What's odd is that no journalist seems interested in her real condition to investigate. Nobody seems interested to verify if she is really is as reported. I wonder if health reports and hospital visits of elderly justices is consistent with those of RGB.

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Originally posted by Ozarkwoods:
If she passes from now until the 2020 election, the Demorats will use the argument the Republicans used to deny Obama his appointee to SCOTUS. Of course that won’t help much since the Republicans have majority in the Senate. The cries from the press and the rats will be fierce for sure.

That argument was after Obama had finished nearly two full terms. It does not apply here.

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Originally posted by Balzé Halzé:

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Originally posted by Ozarkwoods:
If she passes from now until the 2020 election, the Demorats will use the argument the Republicans used to deny Obama his appointee to SCOTUS. Of course that won’t help much since the Republicans have majority in the Senate. The cries from the press and the rats will be fierce for sure.

That argument was after Obama had finished nearly two full terms. It does not apply here.

Not that the dims are willing to bend the truth a bit, as evidenced by their lie that an AR15 is a weapon of war.

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Originally posted by Balzé Halzé:

That argument was after Obama had finished nearly two full terms. It does not apply here.

The argument was the nomination should not take place in an election year and would apply if RGB dies in the next 11 months.

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Originally posted by trapper189:

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Originally posted by Balzé Halzé:

That argument was after Obama had finished nearly two full terms. It does not apply here.

The argument was the nomination should not take place in an election year and would apply if RGB dies in the next 11 months.

Lame duck or not and who controls senate make the rules not hard and fast.

Who controls the Senate makes it simple and efficient as the Republicans proved in 2016. Obama provided a nominee and the Senate said no. The Constitution was followed and the rest was political theatrics.

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Originally posted by trapper189:
Who controls the Senate makes it simple and efficient as the Republicans proved in 2016. Obama provided a nominee and the Senate said no. The Constitution was followed and the rest was political theatrics.

I was so happy to see the GOP playing hardball, I wish they would do it more.

What the dems fail to realize is that even if Ruthie dies tomorrow and they somehow stall the next appointment by lying about the next appointee in the court of public opinion, Trump will be elected for four more years. One way or another, the next Supreme Court Justice will NOT be a leftist stooge.

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Originally posted by Balzé Halzé:

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Originally posted by Ozarkwoods:
If she passes from now until the 2020 election, the Demorats will use the argument the Republicans used to deny Obama his appointee to SCOTUS. Of course that won’t help much since the Republicans have majority in the Senate. The cries from the press and the rats will be fierce for sure.

That argument was after Obama had finished nearly two full terms. It does not apply here.

I will have to disagree with you on this. The Republicans argued that since the election was so close that delaying the process and letting the voters decide on who the president would be and thus the nominee. Just because President Trump can be re-elected does not change the argument. Their hope and concentration will be on changing the power of the Senate to Demorats so when Trump does win they would have power of confirming.

https://thefederalist.com/2019...th-is-irresponsible/

On Sunday, CNN’s “Reliable Sources” did a segment about President Trump’s recent doctor visit that opened with host Brian Stelter questioning, “Trump says he went for a very routine physical because he had extra time, but does it all add up?” Stelter brought on medical correspondent Dr. Sanjay Gupta to question the official story of what the chyron called “Trump’s Mystery Hospital Visit.”

“Any time a 73-year-old man with clinical obesity and a history of heart disease goes to the hospital unannounced, obviously medical people are going to ask why, what prompted that?” Gupta said. “And keep in mind, the president going to the hospital is a big deal, no matter what.”

Gupta then tried to read the tea leaves into the hospital not being informed and prepped beforehand of the president’s visit and the fact that a week ago the White House doctor rode with Trump in the car, which he says is unusual. Gupta then worried about the possibility that the doctors were “beholden to the president” and might not tell Trump the truth about his health. Gupta reiterated these concerns in an accompanying 2,100-word CNN article the same day.

While CNN devoted all this to one news story about a top political figure’s unannounced doctor visit, corporate media outlets in general have been busy sending the opposite messaging about a litany of health difficulties for Supreme Court Justice Ruth Bader Ginsburg. The 86-year-old Ginsburg was admitted to the hospital on Friday with “chills and fever.” The Supreme Court’s oldest justice went home Sunday, according to CBS’s Jan Crawford.

The reports on her illness from CNN, USA Today, Bloomberg, and The New York Times were routine writeups of the press statements Crawford posted. Instead of 2,000 words of probing about the “mystery” behind Ginsburg’s series of recent ailments, CNN Supreme Court reporter Ariane de Vogue pointed out evidence of Ginsburg’s vigor, such as her participation the same day she was hospitalized in an “important” Supreme Court conference.

“I have been watching her carefully since the beginning of this term, and she has been such an active participant. She’s often the first one asking questions, and she follows up,” de Vogue commented. De Vogue failed to point out that Ginsburg has been known for the past 13 years to fall asleep during oral arguments, although she did mention that the justice has had cancer four times.

“This is a very strong woman who has had frail health at times,” de Vogue concluded. “But, boy, she’s a strong woman.”

Ginsburg is clearly a strong woman in the personality sense. That is beside the point. If she were not a far-left political actor, Ginsburg’s health record would not be lipsticked. It’s also much worse than Trump’s. She’s 13 years older than Trump, who is 73. She’s been falling asleep in oral arguments since 2006. Ginsburg also fell asleep during two of President Obama’s State of the Union Addresses and Pope Francis’s speech to Congress in 2015.

Ginsburg can barely get herself off the Supreme Court dais, another long-time situation. She is typically extremely hard to hear when she speaks from the bench. Two weeks ago, she missed oral arguments due to a stomach bug. She also missed two weeks of oral arguments in January due to lung cancer surgery. The first two times she was treated for cancer, in 1999 and 2009, she didn’t miss a day of oral arguments.

In August, Ginsburg was treated with three weeks of radiation for a different cancer, pancreatic. Last November, she fell and broke three ribs. Ginsburg is simply and clearly not in good health. The divergence in treatment between her health history and Trump’s was replicated in media dismissal of Hillary Clinton’s fainting spell, the Washington Free Beacon noted.

The opposite-world media coverage is not shocking, because corporate media do free PR for the left, but it is unfair and impedes the American people’s business. The Supreme Court always considers significant cases, and those pending are no exception: whether Trump can undo President Obama’s executive order suspending immigration laws, whether laws against sex discrimination require employers to allow cross-dressing, whether religious schools may participate in state choice programs, to what extent states may regulate abortion, and more.

If Ginsburg is not capable of fully performing her duties in these cases, she should step down. If she is not capable of recognizing whether she should step down, others should guide her to do so.

Working furiously against this needed realization, the media has for decades been constructing a pretense that an elderly four-time cancer patient who falls asleep on the job and can barely walk is peppy, alert, and capable. Back in 2013, the Washington Post published a cutesy profile of Ginsburg’s personal trainer, who got her to peak performance of 20 pushups. That same year, The New Yorker’s Jeffrey Toobin claimed she was stronger than younger justices using the same workout equipment.

Stephanie Mencimer described in Mother Jones last year other media efforts in this absurd PR campaign to pep up an elderly justice with a long and serious history of health difficulties:

Details of [Ginsburg’s exercise routine] appear in Notorious RBG, and Ginsburg allowed the RBG documentary makers to film her doing pushups and tossing a medicine ball—proof, the film implies, that she is nowhere near death’s door.

Last year, personal trainer Johnson published The RBG Workout: How She Stays Strong and You Can Too, for which Ginsburg wrote the foreword. In March, Ginsburg helped promote the book by going on TV to work out with Stephen Colbert …Only the most die-hard superfan could call Ginsburg’s Colbert performance anything but cringeworthy—those things she does with Johnson are most definitely not pushups. The episode felt like a desperate attempt to convince the world, and maybe Ginsburg herself, that she didn’t grievously miscalculate in refusing to retire before 2014.



If it were Trump who had been a four-time cancer survivor who could barely walk down three steps, we’d be enduring a media thunderstorm demanding he resign rather than watching sunny profiles of him lifting five pounds with help next to a comedian. We’d have the Supreme Court potentially ushering Ginsburg off the bench the same way they ushered out Associate Justice William O. Douglas in 1975 after he suffered a debilitating stroke but still refused to resign. (Read the link — his story is shocking.)

Why would a justice well into the twilight years and by all appearances having a rough time not retire gracefully so her succession could be well-planned for optimal benefit to the nation? Everyone knows the answer: Because the Supreme Court is not a strictly judicial force that applies the laws as they are written. It is a political institution that makes political decisions, not a legal institution that makes legal decisions.

Ginsburg is among the justices notorious for her manipulation of the law. That legal corruption does make her job easier for her age. She doesn’t need to actually analyze the law itself, she just needs to know what would be politically advantageous to the left and rule accordingly, as she has done her entire tenure.

Still, Ginsburg obviously doesn’t want to retire while a Republican has the power to appoint her successor. Along with the entire Democrat-Media Complex, Ginsburg badly miscalculated by assuming Hillary Clinton would win the presidency in 2016 and thus didn’t resign while Obama could appoint her replacement.

So Ginsburg is now stuck in political purgatory, having to sit on the bench as her already delicate health declines even further. For her sake, and the country’s, let’s pray her departure doesn’t look anything like Douglas’s — and that her successor helps undo the court’s overweening importance as an unelected superlegislature in which justices’ personal politics can subvert the law.

Typical. The hildabeast passes out and is thrown into a van like a sack of potatoes, and the ONLY reason we know about it is because some dude got the video on his phone.

rgb is one sneeze away from the afterlife and she's 'vigorous.'

President Trump has a dr visit and now it's a Constitutional crisis. . .