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hyponatremia,


Symptoms

You may not have any symptoms if your hyponatremia is very mild. Symptoms usually appear when your level of sodium suddenly rises or drops.

Signs of hyponatremia may include:

● Nausea with vomiting

● Fatigue

● Headache or confusion

● Cramps or spasms in your muscles

● Irritability and restlessness

Severe cases can lead to seizures or even coma.

both my G,P. doctor and my nephroligist
have said that my low sodium diet would not !
cause cramps or irritability or fatigue.

who am I supposed to believe?


I would rely on their advice, check your sodium often, watch out for symptoms, and be prepared to introduce more sodium back into your diet, if you overshoot. With your doctor's permission, naturally. Ask questions. Read the latest studies and discuss them with your doc. If he hasn't or won't read them, consider a second opinion or a new doctor.

Bruce






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Wait, I thought you weren't supposed to drink distilled water because it pulls nutrients out of your system or something. Can anyone confirm?



9 doctors have told me that nothing or nobody has published results that prove this





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To the OP, I hope between your research and the medical professionals that you can get it figured out for him. The one thing about many medical diagnosis and treatments is that there can definitely be variables and inconsistencies.

To the professionals and others with personal experiences, what are the better / best upper arm BP monitors you can use at home that seem to be as close as possible to a traditional sphygmomanometer reading? Looking for myself and I'm sure others reading the thread would be interested, including the OP and his son.


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This works fine for me. Be sure and take it to your physician's office to cross check calibration. Mine was almost the same. Of course don't talk, do not cross your legs and sit properly.

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I picked up a sphygmomamometer last night. The first reading on Marky was 140/97 but he looked really nervous so I took it again and talked to him about song lyrics during the reading and it came down to 134/87. This morning he was at 137/85. I do think the low-salt diet along with conscious hydration is helping tremendously. Even his urine is lighter.

I'm much less frazzled today.
 
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Good to hear it sounds like Marky is better. I've found that having ice water available got me in the habit of drinking a lot more of it. I even carry a Yeti knock off whenever I take the car anywhere. Even in our insane heat here in Vegas the water stays ice cold. Having it right there, on hand and cold was the key for me.
 
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The boy's blood pressure is elevated again but the readings change with two readings in a row. I can still get a lower reading by distracting him.

The readings are still lower than before but it is still a concern.
 
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B/P changes with every beat of your heart, literally.
Sounds like stress.
Keep hydrating and maybe figure out what's got him wound so tight. Lay off the Red Bull, if he hasn't already Wink

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"The designer of the gun had clearly not been instructed to beat about the bush. 'Make it evil,' he'd been told. 'Make it totally clear that this gun has a right end and a wrong end. Make it totally clear to anyone standing at the wrong end that things are going badly for them. If that means sticking all sort of spikes and prongs and blackened bits all over it then so be it. This is not a gun for hanging over the fireplace or sticking in the umbrella stand, it is a gun for going out and making people miserable with." -Douglas Adams

“It is just as difficult and dangerous to try to free a people that wants to remain servile as it is to try to enslave a people that wants to remain free."
-Niccolo Machiavelli

The trouble with fighting for human freedom is that one spends most of one's time defending scoundrels. For it is against scoundrels that oppressive laws are first aimed, and oppression must be stopped at the beginning if it is to be stopped at all. -Mencken
 
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The dark urine indicates a serious problem, everything else brought up is almost inconsequential. 12131 is right on the problem, and he has the experience to back it up. As soon as the lab results come back, the answer should be obvious.


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Blood test, urinalysis and a chest xray were prescribed and we got those on Saturday, no results reported yet. The blood test was glucose, BUN and another thing I can't remember at the moment (maybe cholesterol). His urine was strangely dark, nearly orange.

Two conditions immediately jump into my head, both kidney problems related to a recent Strep infection or a viral infection.
1- Post-Streptococcal glomerulonephritis, https://medlineplus.gov/ency/article/000503.htm
2- IgA Nephropathy, https://www.kidney.org/atoz/content/iganeph

This would explain why he had normal BP in Feb, and now suddenly, his BP is high.

I saw this quite often, when I was doing my pediatric nephrology rotation during residency, and a few more cases in practice.
Thanks for the info. I'll look into it.
Another discovery is that his urine is strangely foamy. The color has lightened a bit but the foam remains and from what I've read indicates protein in the urine. That points more toward the mentioned IgA Nephropathy. Still waiting for test results.

Sorry, guys. I'm back to being a total mess.
 
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I suggest you ask the PCP test his blood for complement levels C3 and C4, and ASO titer (for evidence of a recent Strep infection), if he has not done so, already. Most PCPs will not know to order these, if they don't think about the conditions.

*With low C3/C4 levels and a positive ASO, you can almost be certain that he has post-strep glomerulonephritis.

*IgA nephropathy will give you a normal complement levels.

If you are going to be afflicted by one, IgA nephropathy is something you don't want to have. It tends to be prolonged to permanent.

Post-strep GN tends to be limited and resolves after a short course.


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I suggest you ask the PCP test his blood for complement levels C3 and C4, and ASO titer (for evidence of a recent Strep infection), if he has not done so, already. Most PCPs will not know to order these, if they don't think about the conditions.

*With low C3/C4 levels and a positive ASO, you can almost be certain that he has post-strep glomerulonephritis.

*IgA nephropathy will give you a normal complement levels.

If you are going to be afflicted by one, IgA nephropathy is something you don't want to have. It tends to be prolonged to permanent.

Post-strep GN tends to be limited and resolves after a short course.
I really appreciate this info. Thanks!
 
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Updates on your son?
 
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I started having high blood pressure when I was 15. I was in great shape and played football, baseball, soccer, track, etc. Every other test was perfect, just my blood pressure.

At first they thought it was just because of anxiety with the doctors, but it was high every time. At 16 I got on meds. They thought for sure there was an underlying reason, but 5 doctors later and now at the age of 35, it might just be high blood pressure.
 
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Updates on your son?
Doctor appointment this afternoon. Will report.
 
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Doctor appointment results. Chest xray: normal. The other two tests are lost. UPMC bought out our local hospital/lab and it's just a rotten clusterschmuck.

Marky's blood pressure was 136/90 and the doctor doesn't want to put him on medication for that. He will call as soon as the test results come in, if they ever do, and he scheduled a follow up in 5 weeks.

Just to be clear we had the labs done on June 3 and they're still not back.
 
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9 doctors have told me that nothing or nobody has published results that prove this


Yeah what about the 10th doc, you gotta have 10, otherwise you can't say, 9 outta 10 docs said so...
 
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Marky's blood pressure was 136/90 and the doctor doesn't want to put him on medication for that. He will call as soon as the test results come in, if they ever do, and he scheduled a follow up in 5 weeks.

Just to be clear we had the labs done on June 3 and they're still not back



Yeah that is ridiculous. What two tests are you waiting on?
 
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Yeah what about the 10th doc, you gotta have 10, otherwise you can't say, 9 outta 10 docs said so...



this was over a six year period





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The doctor called my wife this afternoon. She said he was surprised and concerned. He ordered a renal ultrasound and more blood tests. I'll get the specifics later. C3 is one of the tests. He wrote "renal failure" on the diagnosis line of the prescriptions. Frown

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