I really am a live and let live guy. I believe that we are inherently a centrist, purple if you will country.

I believe in every race, creed, culture and religion being allowed to exist how they please.

I believe that no matter how much I personally dislike your choices or life, by God it's your choice and you should be free to live your life the way you see fit.

I believe that who you love is your business, not mine, whether I agree or not.

Why do I say all this? I am a Baltimore native and that pleading to stop the killing for 72 hours pisses me off. There are animals, nay, monsters in this world and they are not to be bargained/pleaded with. They are the anomaly, the minority and they come in all races, all cultures, all races and religions and it pisses me off that we do not systematically target these monsters. The world, all of us would be so much better off.

Sorry for the rant. Just bugs the crap out of me that we are asking animals nicely to stop killing. Jesus, how about we ask ISIS nicely to stop raping, maiming, terrorizing and killing. FFS people there are bad people in the world. There is rabid evil. It's not "black folks" or "muslims" or "right wingers" or etc. etc. but there are identifiable monsters out there of all races, creeds, cultures etc. and God Dammit asking them nicely to stop their shenanigans is not how this game is played.

Sigh. That stupid Baltimore thing really torqued me off.

Sorry for the rant. I now return you to your regularly scheduled forum.

I could not agree with you more. Asking scum to quit killing is just stupid, it ain't gonna work.

Methinks building a wall around said scum, evacuating the good folks, then continuing to throw ammo over the wall until it gets quiet would be more effective with the type of folks you describe. Sadly, that sort of approach isn't PC and hasn't been for a long time.

Wasn't it the 70s when the FBI went after bank robbers by predicting where they'd strike and showing up with overwhelming force, then saving the taxpayers the cost of a trial? Even back then it didn't take long for the bleeding hearts to start wailing and gnashing their teeth and that was the end of that program...

In the current "libtards run amuck" culture, suggesting such an approach, much less attempting to implement would be a serious CLM (career limiting move). It will be grand if over the next 7.5 years our President can move the pendulum back the other way a bit. Here's hoping for a return to something more closely resembling sanity...

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Originally posted by slosig:
Methinks building a wall around said scum, evacuating the good folks, then continuing to throw ammo over the wall until it gets quiet would be more effective with the type of folks you describe. Sadly, that sort of approach isn't PC and hasn't been for a long time.

Wasn't it the 70s when the FBI went after bank robbers by predicting where they'd strike and showing up with overwhelming force, then saving the taxpayers the cost of a trial? Even back then it didn't take long for the bleeding hearts to start wailing and gnashing their teeth and that was the end of that program...

In the current "libtards run amuck" culture, suggesting such an approach, much less attempting to implement would be a serious CLM (career limiting move). It will be grand if over the next 7.5 years our President can move the pendulum back the other way a bit. Here's hoping for a return to something more closely resembling sanity...

NYPD used to have a Stakeout Squad that would hide in businesses that had been robbed multiple times. Jim Cirillo was on it. they saved the tax payers many trials before the politicians shut them down. I wish they would bring them back.

The FBI might have done similar, I don't know.

I agree. But there is one ray of hope in this Baltimore initiative, and that is that the action is being driven by the citizens of the city. The first step in curing what is wrong with Baltimore is having the citizens stand up and demand change and accountability from their political leadership. This initiative won't bring the results that they want, but it may bring normally disorganized, and therefore powerless, people together to put pressure on politicians, give space to police to do their jobs, and start to break through the culture of "didn't see nothing, don't know nothing" that makes inner city policing so difficult.

Baltimore will change when the people of Baltimore demand it. Up till now, the people have accepted the carnage and destruction. If that is changing, it is a positive sign. I hope this is the first step of the citizens of Baltimore demanding the accountability and action from their political leadership that they deserve. I wish them well, but hold little hope.

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Originally posted by ArtieS:
I agree. But there is one ray of hope in this Baltimore initiative, and that is that the action is being driven by the citizens of the city. The first step in curing what is wrong with Baltimore is having the citizens stand up and demand change and accountability from their political leadership. This initiative won't bring the results that they want, but it may bring normally disorganized, and therefore powerless, people together to put pressure on politicians, give space to police to do their jobs, and start to break through the culture of "didn't see nothing, don't know nothing" that makes inner city policing so difficult.

Baltimore will change when the people of Baltimore demand it. Up till now, the people have accepted the carnage and destruction. If that is changing, it is a positive sign. I hope this is the first step of the citizens of Baltimore demanding the accountability and action from their political leadership that they deserve. I wish them well, but hold little hope.

You have the same problem in Philly.

The Liberal mentality:
They simply can't believe that evil is real.
So if you point out evil or want to fight against evil, then YOU must be the evil one, trying to get them to "discriminate", and you probably have some ulterior motive.


==> The only really evil people are those who notice evil and want to resist evil.

It's a bizarro world.

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Originally posted by Crom:
The Liberal mentality:
They simply can't believe that evil is real.
So if you point out evil or want to fight against evil, then YOU must be the evil one, trying to get them to "discriminate", and you probably have some ulterior motive.


==> The only really evil people are those who notice evil and want to resist evil.

It's a bizarro world.

And lets not forget that it's the liberals who see Rapists and Murderers as The Victim, not the actual victim of the heinous acts perpetrated upon them.

The people in Baltimore may want it but the reality is that unless they start working with LE and prosecutors on turning in and testifying against the thugs, nothing is going to change.

They will have to turn against family members and I don't see that happening.

I wish they had peace, too but the reality is that the people of Baltimore voted for this and made their own mess.

What kills me is that the Baltimore public DEMANDED police be restrained, now they're whining about violent crime? Can they see no link?

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Originally posted by Edmond:
The people in Baltimore may want it but the reality is that unless they start working with LE and prosecutors on turning in and testifying against the thugs, nothing is going to change.

They will have to turn against family members and I don't see that happening.

This seems to be pretty much like the terrorist vs "moderate muslim" problem.