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DEI has infected another iconic American brand:
Ego is the anesthesia that deadens the pain of stupidity DISCLAIMER: These are the author's own personal views and do not represent the views of the author's employer. | ||
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JD may as well ditch the iconic green and have all their soon-to-be-foreign-built crap covered with the lgtbxyz rainbow. If JD isn't going to be made in the U.S. then it's Kubota for me from now on. | |||
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that sucks, ~2 years ago I was pissed and started putting my VERY modest retirement savings in individual stocks and funds... figured I could no way do worse... I've got ~10% in JD. I guess as a shareholder I can voice my opinion, screw it I'll give it a shot FWIW: I actually chose JD over Cummins or CAT because of this shit I'm now only in 6 things: #1 = SCHD, #2 = Bluebird (Yes, the manufacturer of school buses) | |||
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I'm sure that the cartels are already happily mapping all the spots within JD tractors where their fentanyl can conveniently hitch a ride north. -MG | |||
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My family back home in Canada have owned JD tractors since the early 1940's and still do. However, I'm not totally surprised that they've gone all 'woke'. Last year I read an article about their efforts to persuade a very large-area prairie farmer to buy into their all-electric combines. This guy gas a spread of around 60,000 acres, and has a two-week window of opportunity for harvesting, during which time his twenty or so combine crews operate 24/7, living in trailers when not driving their combines, stopping only to gas-up. Obviously, he has some kind of big leasing deal ongoing with JD. So he asked the JD rep how he was going to keep the electric combines charged up in the middle of a thousand acre wheatfield....... Seems he's still waiting for an answer to that one. There are some things that ought NEVER to be considered for electric traction, like a helicopter, any kind of long-distance airplane or boat, and stuff like combine harvesters...... | |||
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I am surprised. John Deere was and still is the go to brand for tractors and combines in the small farming community that I grew up in. You would be hard pressed to find a more conservative community. Talking about an "in your face" to your customers. Unbelievable ![]() | |||
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With Bill Gates being one their largest shareholder, I can see why. The man is pure evil. Let all Men know thee, but no man know thee thoroughly: Men freely ford that see the shallows. Benjamin Franklin | |||
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When I saw that, all things became clear. This space intentionally left blank. | |||
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John Deere lost a lot of sales the last couple of years do to the Farmers not being able to fix their equipment. Having to call a service truck and wait while their tractor sat in the middle of the field pissed them off. A few States are trying to apply the right to repair act to farm equipment. FEBRUARY 13, 2023: DENVER (AP) — Lawmakers in Colorado and 10 other states have introduce bills that would force farming equipment manufacturers to provide the tools, software, parts and manuals needed for farmers to do their own repairs. The bills are a response to farmers unable to repair their own tractors and combines, forcing them to wait sometimes days and paying steep labor costs. The proposition has found pushback from manufacturers worried about releasing trade secrets, the safety of users who could more easily tinker with the software, and the operator’s ability to bypass the emissions controller. https://drgnews.com/2024/03/18...-repair-legislation/ Hard to say how long the damage to sales will last, it seems though between going woke and the service fiasco they want to fail. | |||
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I hated to read this about John Deere; I don’t begin understand the corporate-think that would lead an iconic tractor manufacturing company to turn its back on those who made them the biggest, and led them to survive as so many other American tractor manufacturers went out of business. This, coupled with the recent announcement that JD is moving most, if not all American manufacturing to Mexico, makes me regret the JD X model lawn/garden tractor I have. Massey-Ferguson is still made in the U.S., down in Georgia. _______________________________________________________ despite them | |||
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Preview of what’s coming? And lots more of it. | |||
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Far more offensive to me than JD's political leanings are their shady business practices. Such as preventing farmers from working on their own bought and paid for equipment by putting crypto software in every JD part so repairs must be made with these instead of an after-market brand. The JD part is prohibitively more costly, and not in ways that improve quality or service life (quite the opposite in some cases). This practice is flat out extortion. They also have installed a capability to shut down equipment over the air should a farmer be late on a payment or run afoul of any usage conditions (like trying to install a non-JD implement on their tractor). Since farming is an extremely time-sensitive endeavor this can put the farmer's income at risk for an entire growing season. I don't know if farmers not adhering/promoting DEI will result in bricking their harvester, but I would not be surprised if it ends up there. Cameras in the cab to brick the machine if a white male gets behind the wheel can't be far off (don't want to give you any ideas JD!) "But I identify as a black woman," claims blond blue-eyed Iowa farm boy! | |||
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But this is exactly the business model of Microsoft, and Gates as largest shareholder of Deere apparently brought it to them, too. This space intentionally left blank. | |||
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What really annoys me, is that their quality has been total shit for over 15 years now. The ZTR my dad bought in 2009 for over $8000 has needed no less than 10 repairs with under 500 hours. One of those repairs was the he ignition wire because some genius engineer decided to route it BELOW the skid plate to the engine. It snagged on a stick and damaged the wire. Engine lost compression before 250 hours. Input shaft seal on the hydrostatic pumps had to be replaced FOUR times on each side before they got it right. ![]() | |||
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Fucking boycott them all. Add Olive Garden to the list. They hire men who dress like women and let them serve children. Had to endure that shit recently. Sorry for the hijack, but my point remains! Don't give any of these unhinged woke shitty corporations your money until they do a 180. We fixed Tractor Supply. | |||
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My JD riding mower is about 25 years old, on its second engine. I've stalled replacing it over and over, repairing things as I go. (Except for that darned broken plastic hood, which finally went in the trash last week.) I've been wondering what I might get next, maybe as soon as next summer. A quick look at Massey's web site shows their offerings to be much larger than what I need. Maybe I'll look at Cub Cadet next. Dangit, Deere! God bless America. | |||
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It's some stupid Mexican company, who cares what some Mexican company does? Jesse Sic Semper Tyrannis | |||
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Another once great, proud American company down the drain. I owned a JD lawn mower purchased in the 1990s which served me well for years. I gave it to a new homeowner a couple of years ago when it became clear my lawnmowing days were over. | |||
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If you don't insist on sitting down, take a look at what pretty much every professional mowing outfit uses...some variant on the Hustler/Scag/Exmark/etc. walk-behinds, generally 36 in. - 48 in. cut. They use these for a number of reasons, some of which prob. aren't that important to a homeowner, but they are cheaper, faster cutting, and easier to maintain than a comparable rider. Some can be had with a stand-up sulky, or with a sit down sulky, but I'd suggest getting proficient without a sulky before opting for one. In doing a little browsing, the BCS America brand has an interesting concept, buy a bare tractor unit and the implements you want to use with it. Seems very versatile and you don't have to find a place to store a bunch of different power plants, not to mention one engine to maintain, fuel, etc. Yes, I know that you can buy all sorts of implements for many popular garden tractors, but a system designed around the concept should be more effective than using a machine for, e.g., snow blowing that was designed to be cutting grass seems a no-brainer. OTOH, maybe they just have compromised so much that maybe they just suck at everything. An interesting idea anyway. | |||
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